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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 1967Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    One of the problems we face is that too many people, when faced with the issue of kids going hungry, simply deflect by pointing out that some of those cases are because the parents have selfishly prioritised other things (drugs, drink, fags, gambling, massive TV - the list goes on)
    Whilst that's undeniably true in some cases - it does a gross disservice to those who aren't in that position and are just genuinely living in poverty. And it also does nothing to solve the root cause of inequality caused by the endless pursuit of profit
    Even the most right wing of posters on here seem happy to admit that neoliberalism/capitalism is out of control in many ways - but the question is really, what are you going to do about it? I don't know how people can see it and then still vote for more of it ūüėě
    Changing the subject slightly- is anyone up to speed with what's going on in Hong Kong? I've not really got my head around it, but it seems pretty serious given the millions of people protesting in the streets
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 1967Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Whilst I have no problem with being called out, you've picked an odd one to get indignant over
    It's not exactly difficult to buy followers/likes. Just google it
    Then next time you see Boris tweet, watch the like/retweet list and see it with your own eyes like I did
    Plus on top of that - it was reported in well known communist rag the erm (checks notes) Daily Telegraph that the Tories were paying people to take to Twitter in support of the party
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/24/tories-hire-army-tweeters-take-social-media-fight-labour/
     
    And for the record, I'm not suggesting this behaviour is limited to Boris Johnson - it's everywhere, just picked BJ as the Prime Minister (as that's arguably the role we need to have the most trust in)
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 1967Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Talking about social media manipulation, just been reading how Boris Johnson's tweets get thousands of retweets & likes within an hour. Yet when you check the accounts doing it it, many have no or very few followers, have never tweeted themselves, and appear to be brand new accounts with no avatar or profile info
    We have to ask ourselves who is paying for these bots and why?
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 1967Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    No big surprise that Corbyn would be critical of the EU project in terms of it's execution and control of power - I don't know many remainers who are deluded enough to believe that the EU institution itself is perfect. But then the pragmatic centrist view is that despite it's flaws, it brings so many positives that it's a total baby/bathwater situation. The sensible approach is to either remain and reform or leave in a sensible managed manner via  controlled method that allows for the minimum amount of impact to the man in the street
    That's a tricky line to tread, and one that Corbyn has endeavoured to follow. Despite the fact that it doesn't adhere to the polarised LEAVE! REMAIN! shouting match that the loudest beetroot-faced plebs are being encouraged (by the media) to pursue
     
     
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    SchtivePesley reacted to BaaLocks in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Yeah, I agree. We don't know much at all about what my great grandfather did, all we know is that his first name was Jack. Would be nice to know more, if you think you can help please message me - name is Dave Ripper.
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I think he was referring to the concept of the older generation always complain about the behaviour of the younger generation - rather than saying their behaviour is no different to previous generations
    Clearly there are bigger problems amongst young people than there were 20 years ago. Much more knife crime, much more gang culture, much less respect for authority etc
    Why do you think that is? And keep asking why until you get to the root cause
    I don't think it's as simple as saying it could be solved if their parents hit them more
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    SchtivePesley reacted to G STAR RAM in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I'm a bit worried that this conversation is becoming a bit civilised...can we get back on to Brexit!
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Ok - a fair point, but you've still only asked why once
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    SchtivePesley reacted to JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Agree 100%. Coupled with the fact technology allows certain behaviours to be broadcast to a captive audience and it unfairly paints a whole generation as feral, knife wielding crazies.
    But yeah, obviously they just weren't hit hard enough with their Mum's slippers when they were toddlers.
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from Highgate in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I think he was referring to the concept of the older generation always complain about the behaviour of the younger generation - rather than saying their behaviour is no different to previous generations
    Clearly there are bigger problems amongst young people than there were 20 years ago. Much more knife crime, much more gang culture, much less respect for authority etc
    Why do you think that is? And keep asking why until you get to the root cause
    I don't think it's as simple as saying it could be solved if their parents hit them more
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I think he was referring to the concept of the older generation always complain about the behaviour of the younger generation - rather than saying their behaviour is no different to previous generations
    Clearly there are bigger problems amongst young people than there were 20 years ago. Much more knife crime, much more gang culture, much less respect for authority etc
    Why do you think that is? And keep asking why until you get to the root cause
    I don't think it's as simple as saying it could be solved if their parents hit them more
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    SchtivePesley reacted to Highgate in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Older generations complaining about the youth of the day.  Some things never change. 
    Bad parents exist and have always existed. But there is little doubt now that it will be up to the younger generations to fix the mess that the older generations are leaving for them. 
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    SchtivePesley reacted to ilkleyram in Best Guitarist Ever   
    You have to admit that if he is miming then he's miming very very well and whoever he's miming to was very very good 
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    SchtivePesley reacted to GboroRam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Squabbling over the crumbs. 
    Persimmon boss was awarded a £75m bonus last year. Focus on the point in hand. You don't live in a third world country. We could change the rules, if we had the political will. 
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from McRamFan in The Politics Thread 2019   
    No big surprise that Corbyn would be critical of the EU project in terms of it's execution and control of power - I don't know many remainers who are deluded enough to believe that the EU institution itself is perfect. But then the pragmatic centrist view is that despite it's flaws, it brings so many positives that it's a total baby/bathwater situation. The sensible approach is to either remain and reform or leave in a sensible managed manner via  controlled method that allows for the minimum amount of impact to the man in the street
    That's a tricky line to tread, and one that Corbyn has endeavoured to follow. Despite the fact that it doesn't adhere to the polarised LEAVE! REMAIN! shouting match that the loudest beetroot-faced plebs are being encouraged (by the media) to pursue
     
     
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in The Politics Thread 2019   
    It's a fair enough question to ask, as at least you're acknowledging there is more to it than just "scroungers".
    Maybe one of the downsides of a liberal welfare state is that there will always be those who take advantage. Under Blair I'm sure that happened, but then under austerity and the Tory "iron fist" you can clamp down on that by introducing sanctions and things like Universal Credit, but then the side effect is that this begins to affect regular people who find themselves in trouble. I know several people who have, through no fault of their own ended up out of work and totally screwed over by the current benefits system, relying on family and friends to get them through 6-12 months of hell, trying to get their life back on track. A lot of less fortunate people don't have that support network and end up on the streets I'm sure
    Personal political choices I guess. Do you hate scroungers so much that you'd accept innocent people dragged into poverty as a result of trying to tackle those who take advantage. It's a no from me
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in The Politics Thread 2019   
    One of the problems we face is that too many people, when faced with the issue of kids going hungry, simply deflect by pointing out that some of those cases are because the parents have selfishly prioritised other things (drugs, drink, fags, gambling, massive TV - the list goes on)
    Whilst that's undeniably true in some cases - it does a gross disservice to those who aren't in that position and are just genuinely living in poverty. And it also does nothing to solve the root cause of inequality caused by the endless pursuit of profit
    Even the most right wing of posters on here seem happy to admit that neoliberalism/capitalism is out of control in many ways - but the question is really, what are you going to do about it? I don't know how people can see it and then still vote for more of it ūüėě
    Changing the subject slightly- is anyone up to speed with what's going on in Hong Kong? I've not really got my head around it, but it seems pretty serious given the millions of people protesting in the streets
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from I know nothing in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Well I had just made the point that no matter how popular Labour policies are, there are people who have bought the media narrative about Corbyn hook line and sinker and therefore will never disassociate the two. You then repeated the media line that Corbyn is "weak and has no leadership qualities"
    So apart from the fact that he won the Labour leadership election with the largest mandate ever for a party leader, and has withstood endless attempts to remove him from within his own party, withstood a no confidence vote and then won a second leadership challenge with an even larger share of the vote, seen off two Conservative Prime Ministers, led the defeat of Theresa May's Brexit deal three times in the Commons, and despite trailing the Tories by 25 points prior to the 2017 General Election he destroyed their majority and garnered more votes for the Labour Party than even Tony Blair managed...
    The point being that with those facts - it's almost easier to portray him as a strong leader - yet the media choose not to, and people like you lap it up and repeat it
    I don't deny he has his weaknesses, but it's not about him - it's about the way the media control the narrative, and why they do that. The future of our country depends on it
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from I know nothing in The Politics Thread 2019   
    And that's without even doing  anything.... If I open my mouth my xM stats go through the roof!
    Eh? Have you not met any Forest fans?? 
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2019   
    It's a fair enough question to ask, as at least you're acknowledging there is more to it than just "scroungers".
    Maybe one of the downsides of a liberal welfare state is that there will always be those who take advantage. Under Blair I'm sure that happened, but then under austerity and the Tory "iron fist" you can clamp down on that by introducing sanctions and things like Universal Credit, but then the side effect is that this begins to affect regular people who find themselves in trouble. I know several people who have, through no fault of their own ended up out of work and totally screwed over by the current benefits system, relying on family and friends to get them through 6-12 months of hell, trying to get their life back on track. A lot of less fortunate people don't have that support network and end up on the streets I'm sure
    Personal political choices I guess. Do you hate scroungers so much that you'd accept innocent people dragged into poverty as a result of trying to tackle those who take advantage. It's a no from me
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2019   
    One of the problems we face is that too many people, when faced with the issue of kids going hungry, simply deflect by pointing out that some of those cases are because the parents have selfishly prioritised other things (drugs, drink, fags, gambling, massive TV - the list goes on)
    Whilst that's undeniably true in some cases - it does a gross disservice to those who aren't in that position and are just genuinely living in poverty. And it also does nothing to solve the root cause of inequality caused by the endless pursuit of profit
    Even the most right wing of posters on here seem happy to admit that neoliberalism/capitalism is out of control in many ways - but the question is really, what are you going to do about it? I don't know how people can see it and then still vote for more of it ūüėě
    Changing the subject slightly- is anyone up to speed with what's going on in Hong Kong? I've not really got my head around it, but it seems pretty serious given the millions of people protesting in the streets
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    SchtivePesley reacted to SillyBilly in The Politics Thread 2019   
    When I first moved down South I was on £53k, it doesn't buy you much of a life in London as a single man. It genuinely doesn't and this is what frustrates me, people need to live on the other side of the curtain (or a high cost of living area in this case) and try it before they comment. There is a boat load of stress and pressure to earn it, that is a constant though. Reality is you are either heavily subsidised, squeezed middle or stinking rich in London. That tax cut would have helped that squeezed middle group. I was far better off earning £30k in the Midlands. Granted if you want to sleep in a HMO you may save some dollar but when you're holding down a very responsible job student living isn't actually that appealing. You won't have a hope in hell of ever buying either, your after tax income is swallowed in rent. I moved out after 3 years, as many do.
    The final paragraph is right but we all have different priorities. People make choices. I would like to think I will be finished work 25 years before retirement age. But I reckon I will have worked as many hours by that point as people who will go the full distance. I choose to do it differently and am okay with the arrangement overall.
     
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Sorry that you seem  to be working yourself into an early grave for a life you don't appear (from your description) to be enjoying.
    That in itself probably tells us where society is at.
    And also - you're description of the tax system neglects to mention that it's £3.50 for every £10 earned over £50k - is £50k not enough to live on comfortably??
    2 years ago I was earning enough through overtime and overwork to start paying 40% tax and it made me miserable and ill. I'm much happier since I stopped doing that and got my life back. I didn't really need that extra money - it just felt like I should be earning as much as possible because of societal pressure. I learned a hard lesson - money is not what brings happiness. I guess some people never work that out
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from Highgate in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Sorry that you seem  to be working yourself into an early grave for a life you don't appear (from your description) to be enjoying.
    That in itself probably tells us where society is at.
    And also - you're description of the tax system neglects to mention that it's £3.50 for every £10 earned over £50k - is £50k not enough to live on comfortably??
    2 years ago I was earning enough through overtime and overwork to start paying 40% tax and it made me miserable and ill. I'm much happier since I stopped doing that and got my life back. I didn't really need that extra money - it just felt like I should be earning as much as possible because of societal pressure. I learned a hard lesson - money is not what brings happiness. I guess some people never work that out
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    SchtivePesley got a reaction from GboroRam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Sorry that you seem  to be working yourself into an early grave for a life you don't appear (from your description) to be enjoying.
    That in itself probably tells us where society is at.
    And also - you're description of the tax system neglects to mention that it's £3.50 for every £10 earned over £50k - is £50k not enough to live on comfortably??
    2 years ago I was earning enough through overtime and overwork to start paying 40% tax and it made me miserable and ill. I'm much happier since I stopped doing that and got my life back. I didn't really need that extra money - it just felt like I should be earning as much as possible because of societal pressure. I learned a hard lesson - money is not what brings happiness. I guess some people never work that out
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