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We're not an attractive club - not even for Ian Evatt. Only attendances look good, and they will soon dwindle when the weather turns.
We appear to have a serious lack of ability in the squad and the better players want out. The only players queuing up to play for Derby will be non-league, but we've never managed to develop of good scouting system unless its for kids aged nine and under.
If there wasn't a transfer deadline Warne could be given the benefit of the doubt for a few months, but in two weeks time the door for new signings will be shut and he's not really given the fans any confidence with what he's brought in. So assume Cashin and Bird leave, were as good as done until January where we will be even less attractive than we already are.
Last season was a free hit. We couldn't sign anyone. But you'd have thought it would have given the club time to really address its problems and weaknesses. Instead we've developed them into something worse!
This is why teams get stuck in the lower divisions for years.
Least the away kit is nice.

We're not an attractive club - not even for Ian Evatt. Only attendances look good, and they will soon dwindle when the weather turns.
We appear to have a serious lack of ability in the squad and the better players want out. The only players queuing up to play for Derby will be non-league, but we've never managed to develop of good scouting system unless its for kids aged nine and under.
If there wasn't a transfer deadline Warne could be given the benefit of the doubt for a few months, but in two weeks time the door for new signings will be shut and he's not really given the fans any confidence with what he's brought in. So assume Cashin and Bird leave, were as good as done until January where we will be even less attractive than we already are.
Last season was a free hit. We couldn't sign anyone. But you'd have thought it would have given the club time to really address its problems and weaknesses. Instead we've developed them into something worse!
This is why teams get stuck in the lower divisions for years.
Least the away kit is nice.

We're not an attractive club - not even for Ian Evatt. Only attendances look good, and they will soon dwindle when the weather turns.
We appear to have a serious lack of ability in the squad and the better players want out. The only players queuing up to play for Derby will be non-league, but we've never managed to develop of good scouting system unless its for kids aged nine and under.
If there wasn't a transfer deadline Warne could be given the benefit of the doubt for a few months, but in two weeks time the door for new signings will be shut and he's not really given the fans any confidence with what he's brought in. So assume Cashin and Bird leave, were as good as done until January where we will be even less attractive than we already are.
Last season was a free hit. We couldn't sign anyone. But you'd have thought it would have given the club time to really address its problems and weaknesses. Instead we've developed them into something worse!
This is why teams get stuck in the lower divisions for years.
Least the away kit is nice.

BOBBY DUNCAN!!!!!! 

I would concur with this, which is why I am happy he's had the insight/nous to surround himself with people that do have the knowledge.

I think Kirchener is a little like Morris, a small time businessman who fortunately stumbled upon Bitcoin like Morris bought King just before Candy Crush exploded onto the scene. 
Therefore his amount of wealth isn't reflected in the expected level of business acumen and experience. 
He's not used to big deals and this whole saga has been surprisingly difficult and lengthy to him
 
 

Are you a Geordie?
The very fact that he buys low and sells high is the reason he should be number 1 choice.

Are you a Geordie?
The very fact that he buys low and sells high is the reason he should be number 1 choice.

Are you a Geordie?
The very fact that he buys low and sells high is the reason he should be number 1 choice.

Mel can rot in hell, and yes you can remove my post if it makes you feel better.
Just can’t hold it back

Its not my valuation but my guess at the going rate for a player out of contract in the summer who plays for a team without a penny. In the unreal world of football we should be getting minimum of £10m for him.

A lot of that was true and justified criticism - he's been far from consistent and petulant at times. You could say that he's playing to put himself in the shop window, or that its typical that after all his issues on and off the pitch he's got himself back on track we're going to lose him.
Its little wonder we're in such a mess. Rarely do we get a talent who showcases their skills to the maximum at Derby and leaves for a brilliant fee.
To reiterate we spent £10m on Johnson (who wouldn't even attempt to use his right foot to control the ball) and Butterfield who could slow down a high speed train. We sold an 'on form' Hughes for what? £7m? We signed Lawrence for £7m and we haven't got value for him and he's going to go for possibly £3-4m.
 

Its not my valuation but my guess at the going rate for a player out of contract in the summer who plays for a team without a penny. In the unreal world of football we should be getting minimum of £10m for him.

Exactly. We never win. Survive and the club has to rebrand itself as a hard bargain.

Don't want to lose festy. If we went down he would steam roller league one. He is destined to be a top player and it is about time we benefitted on one of our young stars. 

All the info is here https://www.colinbinnie.com/
 
 

Would rather we start smashing some own goals in and celebrate them like our own.
We can choose how many we score depending on what's required to really mess the league up.

Would rather we start smashing some own goals in and celebrate them like our own.
We can choose how many we score depending on what's required to really mess the league up.

Said it before, football clubs never started out as a business and only because of television have they become one. I'd agree with punishment if the cause (Mel) was still in charge and still trying to be clever, but punishing a peoples club is ridiculous. We have nothing. You can't keep punishing Derby County out of spite. If the owner was deemed fit for purpose then the EFL are partly to blame.

Said it before, football clubs never started out as a business and only because of television have they become one. I'd agree with punishment if the cause (Mel) was still in charge and still trying to be clever, but punishing a peoples club is ridiculous. We have nothing. You can't keep punishing Derby County out of spite. If the owner was deemed fit for purpose then the EFL are partly to blame.

of course we can't change the past but for anyone to make excuses for Mel is beyond belief it really is!!
Our Football club is in deep trouble and owes millions to HMRC ( No Excuses ) and yet some see that Mel is not totally to blame !!! it beggars belief!!  We seriously might not even have a football club soon and although I agree ranting and raving will cure nothing I cannot and will not forgive MM of how he's treated this football club...Covid is not an excuse ...I don't see other clubs in a total embarrasing mess like us and I don't see other clubs making a complete hash of it regarding amortisation etc etc ...its a shambles full stop and starts and finishes with the head man who generously  walked away.l...yeah thanks Mel.....lol..........The worst thing that ever happened to our club was the day MM gained control....we were not far away before he intervened and have gone backwards since and now face liquidation if we dont find 30m owed in taxes!!! I'll go further to say had we been run correctly we might be a lot nearer the prem than league1 if we have a football club to actually play in the 3rd tier ......shambles!!! and a disgrace!! 

In situations like this the former owner should be responsible for clearing at least some of the debt.
As things stand he has walked away and its the players, staff, and supporters who are punished. How is that? Point deductions shouldn't even be a thing. Punishment should be that Derby County (or anyone else) are unable to be promoted for a season or two and a wage cap applied. No reward, and a team limited in comparison to the rest of the league. That's it.
We've seen it before Derby and we will see it again. No owner should be able to punish so many innocent people and that's partly on the league to manage.

He's going in January. For nothing. Definitely won't be helping Derby stay up.
He played well on Sunday. It will be his one in five. Plus he's got to put himself in the shop window now.
Everything thats wrong with Derby can be summed up by Tom Lawrence. We overpaid for him, he's overall under performed, he'll go for free, and he'll come back and score a hattrick against us followed by a knee slide and cupped ears in front of the South Stand.

Gibson should be taking MM to court for that money. Not a football club. He's attacking the fans.
As far as I am concerned neither Derby County or Middlesbrough should be brought into the conversation in public. Its between two businessmen.

Gibson should be taking MM to court for that money. Not a football club. He's attacking the fans.
As far as I am concerned neither Derby County or Middlesbrough should be brought into the conversation in public. Its between two businessmen.