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    bimmerman reacted to RadioactiveWaste in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    The more I think about it, the less credible it seems the administration can possibly be anything other than Mel is fed of paying and isn't going to do it any more.
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    bimmerman got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in Mel put us in Administration because......   
    You missed off the real answer why Mel put us into administration..
    Because he's not the Messiah,he's a naughty boy
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    bimmerman got a reaction from atherstoneram in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    He's in my opinion just tried to save face and twaddle a reason out as to why he's not the bad guy
    At this moment in time,I believe that liquidation is round the corner. It's awful to think it that the club I've loved for 30 years could be wiped away but unfortunately that's the reality. Who'd buy a debt laden club with less guaranteed income?
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    bimmerman reacted to Ramtastic ones in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I started out in kiddies corner back in the early seventies. I saw us beat Real Madrid at the BBG and I was there for many other great games. Many will have been rams fans for much longer and seen greater days. I have a programme from the '46 cup final given to me by grandad. Derby is in my DNA. Let's hope that we survive this and let's use our energy in a positive way.
    MM, love him or hate him, has gone. We, as true fans move on and do what we can - support the players and staff in a positive way. Energy focused on the old guard is wasted. Pride park is our home and pride is what we have.
    I will still go to the matches. My 13 year old son will come with me - he is still firmly a Ram even though he lives in an area (Grantham) dominated by forest fans. He dreams of those great days that I witnessed. If he can stay loyal so can we. COYR.
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    bimmerman reacted to David in DCFC Adverts   
    The news broke as I was sat in the pub with my fiancé, going over wedding plans believe it or not.
    Felt like a punch to the gut on so many levels. I've almost become immune now to tabloid stories on possible point deductions, however wasn't prepared for administration. 
    I changed the ads on my phone, understanding that administrators would have us down with the milkman at the bottom of the priority list, that's just how it is.
    There is a contract in place for the adverts with a notice period which has not been triggered by either side, however I presume the process would allow for immediate termination and have no doubts this will happen.
    I have had a great relationship with a number of people at the club, people that will now be in fear of their jobs.
    I'm not going to pressurise them for any kind of clarity as I'm sure they will be just as much in the dark as we have been.
    Said it on many occasions, no adverts = no forum, it's been great to show you all relevant ads for RamsTV, megastore, tickets etc. 
    Maybe it's something that once the administration process is over can resume, I just don't know right now. 
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    bimmerman got a reaction from atherstoneram in Mel put us in Administration because......   
    You missed off the real answer why Mel put us into administration..
    Because he's not the Messiah,he's a naughty boy
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    bimmerman got a reaction from r_wilcockson in Crowd-funding to keep us playing?   
    Set up a crowdfunder with some form of i.d. so people know it'll go to the club. It can't hurt,like you say,if everyone did what they could afford it would help somewhere along the line
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    bimmerman reacted to CBRammette in A Supporters Trust   
    I just feel we need to do something not sleepwalk to oblivion
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    bimmerman reacted to Red Ram in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    This was the part of the interview that made the least sense of all though. It's a real pity neither Nicholson or Dawes challenged him on it or at least asked him to elaborate.
    If Mel was prepared to let the club go for nothing as long as the debt was paid off, how does it benefit a potential purchaser to wait for us to go into Administration? The purchase price was already zero and as per Keiran Maguire's analysis, the excellent summary here https://www.football365.com/news/Derby-county-administration-failure-opinion, and the Peter Marples facebook post, most of the debt will still have to paid off in full even after coming out of Administration (i.e. the debts to HMRC and to MSD etc).
    So, a prospective purchaser who decides to wait it out will, due to the interest continuing to acrue on the loans, just increase the amount of debt they're going to inherit as it will just keep rising. Add to that the obvious point that going into Administration virtually guarantees relegation to League One due to the 12 points deduction and it means that any new owner would be buying a club with an even less sustainable business model than we already have (much lower TV money, lower attendances, less sponsorship income etc). Just from a purely business perspective, why would a prospective owner decide to do that? And from a football point of view, they'd have already demonstrated that they didn't have the interests of the club at heart anyway.
    Mel's optimism that going into Administration will magically unlock the transfer of the club to new owners who have been waiting in the wings just seems unfounded to me. I hope I'm proven entirely wrong...
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    bimmerman reacted to Mckram in Derby County Admin / Liquidation   
    Erik Alonso is back…

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    bimmerman reacted to Icomeinpeace in Derby County Admin / Liquidation   
    Purely speculation but MSD are the wild card in all this - what if they call in the loan? You'd think given his MO that Mel banked on and made assurance to MSD about the riches that would come with promotion with the ground then being used as collateral...  what if they think they can make more money selling or developing the site and therefore call it in, would Mel cover it? 
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    bimmerman reacted to tomsdubs in Views From the Outside 21/22   
    He literally got lied to by the club and kept getting fit again but not played. Didn't find out until Rowett told him towards the end they would owe a fee so didn't play him. I don't blame him for being aggrieved to be honest.
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    bimmerman reacted to RoyMac5 in Views From the Outside 21/22   
    Might have more of an idea of what Mel is like than any of us?
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    bimmerman reacted to RoyMac5 in Views From the Outside 21/22   
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    bimmerman reacted to JG400 in Views From the Outside 21/22   
    As ever great coverage from The Benjamin Bloom Football Channel  
    This guy deserves a ton more subscribers than he gets 
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    bimmerman reacted to AutoWindscreens in A Supporters Trust   
    That is pretty shortsighted. If Ramstrust became the vehicle then everyone would become members of Ramstrust, not just the current small group, and you could vote in a professional leadership! The name of the vehicle doesn't matter. What matters is that it includes provision for fan membership and voting for a professional management team.
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    bimmerman reacted to Rev in A Supporters Trust   
    I'd prefer a football club we could sustain in League One with a £15m revenue, than one we can't a league above with £30m coming through the door.
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    bimmerman reacted to RadioactiveWaste in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    Lets not forget, we are in administration because Mel stopped paying the bills. No other reason. His public explanation is he did that because he can't be rid of the club until he's stopped paying bills because no one will buy it in it's current state.
    Whatever the reasons, the blame all goes to Mel in the end.
    Now, Mel Morris is still a rich man. The bills did not stop being paid because Mel is insovlvant.
    If the entry into adminsitration is the only way to get new ownership in, it really does not say a lot for your stewardship does it.
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    bimmerman reacted to Norman in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    Oh duck no. He stays there. 
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    bimmerman reacted to Ramfan1958 in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I feel sorry for Mel he's spent a fortune trying to get Derby promoted.
    He's a Derby fan he did the bounce with the fans.
    I could never sing get out of our club like fans did yesterday .
    Short memories south stand get of  his back .
    We all make mistakes in life and buisness .
    I may be one of a few but in my eyes he's one of our own. 
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    bimmerman reacted to Icomeinpeace in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    Bless you and thanks - agree I always enjoy a good Derby game myself - joy was unrestrained yesterday though with Hughton's style of play not holding the team back and we're only 9 points off the play-offs !!! Many think Cooper is a good choice as the new manager which looks pretty much a done deal. Best of luck I wouldn't wish your current plight on any club, even you!!! COYReds     
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    bimmerman reacted to jono in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    It’s a post mortem .. I am not really interested and the past 
    what happens next is the most critical thing
    I seems reasonably certain on the basis of this that we will get -4 for the FFP and -12 for the admin (if it happens) so -16 If I understood it all 
    After that it rather depends what other suspended or yet to be found “crimes” that the EFL want to stick on us and if they will come all at once or we get hit again next season. 
    None of this matters at all unless administrators keep us running and new owners step in. Until then it’s all fog and speculation 
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    bimmerman reacted to Icomeinpeace in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I wouldn't begin to know how it could be settled as these things are a quagmire... that's now the job of the administrator, who once appointed will have 8 weeks to put a plan together. The things you mention could all be on the table, the problem is they might not be.. Cocu et al could say no we want paying asap, HMRC might not agree and your other creditors could also play hardball. I'm a very glass half full kind of bloke and I hope this can be sorted for you guys - but its a very very precarious position to be in... It's like dominoes and all it takes is a few not to fall and you're screwed...  
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    bimmerman reacted to Eddie in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I would settle for league 2, rather than just read about Derby County in the history books.
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    bimmerman reacted to Icomeinpeace in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    As a Forest fan I have no axe to grind here and as I've said I feeling genuinely appalled at what's happened to your club but can I just say that I and I suspect many external observers will find your attitude incredibly generous almost to point of disbelief. I mean of course he wanted success everyone does, but the way he's gone about it is surely unforgiveable. He has knowingly and willingly sold/mortgaged almost every bit of your club. He has recklessly played fast and loose with regulations and guidelines, not just of the EFL but of the  HMRC. These regulations aren't  new and cannot be described as anti-Derby - instead he has at every turn it seems taken decisions that would/will have dire consequences for the whole DCFC institution; the club, the players business the length and breadth of the city.... 
    As for what happens now, well the the administrators are in control. Any legal actions being taken by creditors will stop so you can't go in to compulsory liquidation (moratorium). The administrator will put a plan together and must submit that proposals to all creditors within 8 weeks of the administration starting.

    The administrators role is to act in the interests of eh people who are owed money by Derby, not in not Derby's interests, and if they  believe that the club is not a viable entity going forward then the administrators can/will liquidate the company.
    Given the info Mel just implied re some of the outstanding issues, I hate to say it but liquation is really not out of the question at all. Sorry guys
    re buyers- the thing to consider is that as DCFC doesn't own the stadium of the training ground either I believe, the club's only assets are the players - so not much. Plus your debt is around £37 Million as its 26 Million to HMRC, 6 Million in transfer fees and 5 Million roughly to Cocu and his staff. So any new buyer is looking at buying a club and paying off those debts, when they only get the players for it .... and you'll probably be in League 21 after a +20 points deduction .... seriously guys, good luck.
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