kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Bris Vegas in Time to walk away Wayne
Bielik was injured under ‘my boy’ Cocu.
I’m not even criticising Rooney.
I’m defending Cocu when people say Rooney has had it much harder, or any other criticism that has gone his way.
The comments re Rooney are simply because people are comparing them both.
I’ll stick up for Cocu all day long as I genuinely liked the guy. Yeah, the football at times wasn’t great, but he’s the only manager we’ve had since Nigel Clough that has put Derby first before personal ambition.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to angieram in Time to walk away Wayne
There's more than one sort of long ball! Stretton very good at running onto balls over the top played into the channels, similar to the one Fozzy played into Lawrence. I 'd argue Baldock might be similar - not seen enough of him to work out what he's good at yet?
I am not a big fan of the ball into CKR, tbh, by the time he's held up his man and laid it off the defence is all round our players. He hasn't got the deft flicks in his armoury that Martin had so it all seems more laboured.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Chris_Martin in Time to walk away Wayne
Anyone watching the game could see Lawrence was one more foul away from going. He had lost his head, not sure how he even got away with kicking out at their player. It's a basic football decision to sub him off before he gets a red. On his day Lawrence is arguably our best attacking player, and captain too, do you really think Wayne would want to sub him off?
All i'm saying is people can't credit Wayne with a good 'tactical' decision for something that he was forced into doing.
The Shinnie sub is a separate tactical switch, but you could argue we weren't any better after that one. So does that make it a good decision?
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Bris Vegas in Players Derby have ruined, and why are there so many?
I can’t recall thinking that we got a good deal from the players we signed over the past five/six years. The closest probably being Curtis Davies or Tom Huddlestone though both arrived on top-end Championship wages and were only top-end Championship players for one season.
We’ve overpaid, and by quite a bit, for a good 80% of the signings made during Mel’s tenure.
We spent more on Tom Lawrence than Ward, Bryson, Russell, Martin, Forsyth, Keogh, Eustace, Grant, Buxton and Dawkins combined...
Literally our entire playoff 2013/14 team cost less than Tom Lawrence or Jacob Butterfield combined.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Van der MoodHoover in Time to walk away Wayne
It CAN be tactical if you simultaneously change what you are doing, rather than simply bring another player on and ask him to try and do exactly the same thing.
Just taking someone off to prevent a further card is not evidence of astute tactical analysis for me.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Carl Sagan in Here's a (tactical) idea for you Wayne...
I recognize this doesn't address the OP which is about defence, though for me the biggest defensive issue is the crazy way we always try to play "risk and reward" and then, once we've taken the risk and broken our opponent's line, we don't even bother trying to claim the reward but instead turn backwards and start taking risks again. But that's partly because we don't have enough attacking players to hit. What we need if we're going to survive this season is to have much more of an attacking threat, and play to the strengths of our attacking players. And for that I would take 4-3-3 every time:
Byrne Jagielka Davies Buchanan
Jozwiak Stretton Lawrence
Subs: Allsopp Stearman Forsyth Bird Watson Shinnie Baldock
with Bielik coming into Ravel's place once fit and Ravel moved further forward.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Ramarena in Here's a (tactical) idea for you Wayne...
If we were in the Prem with decent options in the squad then I say he’d be right to carry on. But we’re in the Champ where teams will hammer you with anything they can find and exploit any weakness.
I said after the friendlies we’d struggle with this style of play if we stuck to it rigidly, even with large investment in playing staff you’d still probably struggle to an extent if you persisted.
We have limited resources so you need to be able to extract every last drop of ability from the squad and recognise and play to THEIR strengths………it’s adapt or die, that’s the only chance of survival we have!
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Kernow in Martyn Waghorn
Don’t get the dislike towards Waghorn. Not the greatest player, or the smartest, but he always gave his all & scored some very important goals for us.
We overpaid for him, but that’s not his fault. He’s moved on now & doesn’t really deserve the grief to be honest. Marriott seems to get a lot less grief, and did very little for us compared to Waghorn.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Chester40 in Here's a (tactical) idea for you Wayne...
Agreed with 95% of that...
Simply saying we can look neat and tidy but with little threat and we really need to find a way to look more likely to score, on a forum.. is hardly undermining the team?
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to vonwright in Birmingham City vs Derby County Matchday Thread
That's fine but it could also get us relegated. Plus, it's not exactly either-or: it's not a matter of 100% 'boot it up to the target man' v 100% 'play it around at the back at all costs'. Surely we should be able to tweak our system when the other team starts pressing so at least we aren't so predictable?
Birmingham play fairly pragmatic football. I guess you could call it 'ugly' but their fans are a lot happier than ours today. Our pretty passing isn't bringing as much joy as we think it is!
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Blondest Goat in Birmingham City vs Derby County Matchday Thread
But we gifted them the goals because they knew our weakness and kept us under pressure at the back. They forced the mistakes. Yes they were gifts but it was obvious for all to see that they were coming. After that they kept us at arms length and barely had to do any defending as we couldn't get the ball into their half.
They weren't miles better in the sense that they didn't play us off the park but they won every battle, looked quicker and stronger and it was a very comfortable win for them.
For me it was easily out worst performance of the season.
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Bladderwrack in Time to walk away Wayne
Rooney was a great player. For some reason when applying for a managerial job a playing history carries more weight than it perhaps it should. A good manager, or head coach as it may be in 2021, needs above all to have the ability to teach, he can have as many international caps as you like , if he cannot organise, react to in game situations and teach his players coherently his playing career is irrelevant.
In the Premier League 16 of the managers did not win any caps at all only Hassenhuttl 8 with Austria, Solskjaer 67 with Norway, Vieira 107 for France and Guardiola 47 for Spain have caps.
There are few great players that have the ability to become great managers. In the Premier League perhaps only Guardiola can have the great tag for both codes. That is what management is, it is a different code to playing requiring a completely different skill set.
The question about Rooney is does he have the managerial skill set?
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong reacted to Jourdan in Birmingham City vs Derby County Matchday Thread
I am not sure they made the difference, to be honest. Hogan and Jutkiewicz are fairly average for this level and Deeney only had a cameo.
If anything, the pace and directness of players like Chong and Bela was probably more telling.
It was a poor game with little quality on show.
Our defending and lack of organisation let us down. You can’t give away the kind of goals we do and expect to be competitive.
Look at the first goal, as an example. Hogan was completely unmarked and uncontested. He couldn’t miss. He is not going to score an easier goal all season.
The fact we have Baldock, Stretton and Kazim as our forwards comes down to historically poor decision making at the club.
But the lack of goal threat comes from poor tactics which don’t maximise our threat, a lack of team balance, and also having inconsistent players in key positions - the type who can frustrate far more than they excite.