Carnero reacted to Duracell in Chris Martin
The purpose of this sub-forum is to discuss and debate transfer of Derby County players.
People come here to read transfer news and talk about it. There is currently no transfer news regarding Chris Martin. Members seeing new content on this thread might expect to read about potential developments only to discover the same posters going on about how he’s been used by different managers, how what he’s eaten for breakfast might have given him colitis, how failing to visit his family in Beccles ruined his form etc etc.
For any Chris Martin medical advice, tactical debates, wardrobe fittings, revosionist history of his time at the club under different managers and much more, please visit the thread I’ve pulled from this one and added to Rams Talk:
Carnero reacted to 86 points in Chris Martin - Player Discussion Thread.
Unless you as a manager aren't good enough, of course. I think many clued up fans might accept that Jokanovic might have more about him than Pearson and Rowett. Chris's last proper stint was under the aforementioned and despite all the malarkey, he still netted 11 times from 24 starts which is hardly shabby. Once again, you've also neatly overlooked that Martin does not fit the system of the two former Derby managers - he needs to be played in a 4-3-3 to be seen at his best as every Derby fan knows. Obviously you're entitled to an opinion but don't make up shizzle simply to justify your narrative. You don't rate him, fair enough, but let's stick to the facts shall we!
Carnero reacted to loweman2 in The shirt
Sorry to start a new thread but I thought this Shirt deserved one, I collected it today from the framers and I think that it looks fantastic so wanted to share it with the fam.
This particular one I think I got the most out of, collected each signature myself and sat down with each player and chatted.
This was the start of the revolution of Derby County from a small provincial engineering town football club to the top of English football and almost European football, some of these names were on the journey for only a short while and some bought the return ticket.
From 1968 to 1970 they went from fifth from bottom in division two then to champions of division two and then to finish fourth in the first division, all under Clough and Taylor.
We all know what happened in part two !
Not mention the Ram changed forever after this.
The Signatures are
Carnero reacted to angieram in Tomori
Tomori had a good game last night and a couple of times waited for a ball to fall and played with his feet when he could have headed it. Great when you have time to do this but he won't get that very often in the Championship. Lovely touch and distribution though.
We were joking about his aerial ability just before he scored - with his head!
Noticed Keogh encouraging and guiding him positionally a few times last night (as he also did with Bogle). Just wanted to mention it as Keogh took a lot of criticism after the Leeds match for not doing enough of this.
I think we are going to be very grateful of the quality of our centre backs over this season - all will play a part.
Carnero reacted to DCFC1388 in Tomori
We should also remember that he plays mainly RB or RCB, playing LCB is different to RCB as your body positioning has to completely change. Not as easy as some may think, especially for a young lad, I remember Terry having to play RCB for England and his positioning was horrendous.
I can't wait to see him next to Davies, for me that would be our strongest CB pairing with Wisdom RB & Malone LB.
Carnero reacted to Premier ram in v Oldham (A) Carabao Cup - Match Thread
would like to give a big shout out to Bradley Johnson , not everybodys cup of tea , i understand that , but last night i thought he did the simple things very well and worked well with Evans , getting his foot in and letting the ball players do their thing , Brads very good in the air and provides a good shield for the defence with his strength and willingness to tackle , would keep him and Evans together for saturday , and no before anyone asks im NOT Bradley Johnson
Carnero reacted to RoyMac5 in Chris Martin - Player Discussion Thread.
I know you are 86 - I was in a hurry posting and didn't make myself clear. Can't be arsed to respond to posters just willing to put the boot in based on gossip.
I've seen nothing in the U23 games that Martin has played in, nor his previous attitude to going out on loan to suggest Chrissy is just happy to sit around and collect his wages.
Carnero reacted to ilkleyram in v Oldham (A) Carabao Cup - Match Thread
If cliches are cliches it's because they have an element of truth, so tonight a potential banana skin was overcome, you can only beat the team in front of you and we take the win and the clean sheet and look forward to the next round. No doubt Frank will have learnt something from the game too.
What I think I learnt was that the new signings we hadn't really seen before played well - Marriot was lively, works very hard, lays the ball off well and is a handful (though he won't win too much in the air); George Evans is neat on the ball and passes well though his first half was better than his second; and Malone looks as if he needed the game, put some good crosses in and was steady in defence.
The other new signings - Flojo, Mount, Wilson, Waghorn, Tomori - all contributed positively. Wilson should really have scored two. Perhaps Frank and his team can pick a player.
The academy had three representatives - Bogle, Bird and Bennett - all of whom did some good things.
And of the regulars, Carson made two excellent saves, Keogh was generally good (though he and Tomori lost out in the air too much) and Bradley was quietly effective. I know Brad ain't everyone's cup of tea but I like him, mostly because he allows the likes of Mount to play more expansively and also because we are better defensively with him playing well. Mount and Wilson need lesser but more disciplined/experienced players, like Brad, around them to cover for their mistakes whilst they are learning.
So, a win that puts smiles back on faces, suggests we have some good new players and a good spirit in the squad. Nothing especially memorable but a tough game deservedly won and a good night out
Carnero reacted to mwram1973 in Furious Frank
Just because it's not working at the moment doesn't mean it wont come the end of the season. The players have got to have time to learn different Philosophies and tactics, this will take time.
I for one will give him time and I expect some bumps and poor performances along the way, but it's obvious what he's trying to do and we have to give him time and the new players, even if it takes all season.
I realise the 16 year old experts want us to play like real madrid straight off the bat and will start calling for franks head after a couple of months if we aren't top 2, but the more sensible supporters I think will give him & the players time.
Carnero reacted to SaintRam in Furious Frank
You don't want a manager to be smirking and joking after any loss, let alone a loss like that.
I'd also be concerned if he'd looked like he was completely over it already, after what? two days training?
He'll be enjoying the interviews again when he gets things going, no doubt.
Carnero reacted to angieram in Chris Martin
He's also talked to fans directly about this when asked.
Sometimes I despair of people just bad mouthing players and disputing everything we are told. It's not Watergate, we don't need conspiracy theories. If you hate him that much that you can't support his recovery, then exercise some discretion and say nothing at all.