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    Anon got a reaction from GB SPORTS in Joey Barton sacked   
    This is pretty much spot on. Personally I prefer a mix of opinions like you get on some of the radio discussion programs where journalists and ex pros offer their opinions. I couldn't tell you the last time I actually sat through and paid attention to the post match analysis on a TV broadcast. As others in this thread have pointed out, I think the way people consume football coverage has changed with the ready availability of highlights and streams and that's driven some of the changes we see in punditry. Roy Keane's frequent hot takes whilst Micah Richards cackles maniacally in the background aren't just because Roy is a miserable curmudgeon. He's incentivised to create reactionary short form content that will be clipped and shared online.
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    Anon reacted to Alty_Ram in Joey Barton sacked   
    Just my personal take on things but here goes..

    IMHO, TV shows of this nature need an engaging host who can hold the whole programme together and draw useful info and insight from whatever experts are there. Whether you think MoTD has that host is a whole other question, but the presenters ability to hold the show together and head off rambling answers or bizarre rantings is the reason why you have a presenter who needn't be a former professional male footballer. Their maleness is neither going to get me to watch it nor to avoid it, I'd just ask are they any good in the presenter role and if they are then I'll watch it. It's like the chat show host role in many ways.
    Likewise, commentators largely just describe what they are seeing and provide stats and discuss what options there may be from the bench, much as we do as fans when we discuss key phases of a game. We don't need to be former pros to see when a team has gone on the defensive and is inviting pressure or run out of steam, or whether a team has switched formation due to the latest substitutions. That just needs good knowledge of the teams so you can see that a forward has been withdrawn and an extra defender has come on or whatever. Once again, I'm not overly bothered whether that is a male or female voice but on a very minor and very specific point I have very occasionally observed that at really noisy games where the commentators are embedded with the crowd, that I can sometime hear male commentators more clearly than their female counterparts but that is as likely to be my hearing range as anything else.
    The only real role where ex or current pro footballers seem to be relevant to me is as a pundit. Their insight into what might be happening psychologically or tactically or some insight into the nature of the half time team talk might be useful. Based on Sky Sports shows, they are however just as likely to talk out their backsides and pointlessly squabble and contradict each other as offer much useful insight.
    In terms of male vs female pundits I'd just want to hear from someone with some relevant insight. If their experience was in the male game from 30 years ago when it was OK for a manager to hurl coffee cups at people then that perhaps may not always have quite the relevant insight that you'd hope for. Likewise, if a female ex pro pundit has never played in front of more than a few thousand fans at most then their take on big game pressures might be less relevant. The women's game is growing though, their top pros are playing in front of bigger crowds, particularly in international tournaments and that is relevant experience in my book.

    Whether the balance is right yet, I couldn't really say, but the basic principle is not one that I have an issue with.
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    Anon got a reaction from Stive Pesley in Joey Barton sacked   
    I couldn't disagree more with the points you've made in this thread. You don't fix or atone for racism with more racism. You have a generation growing up in this country who have been taught and (mostly) believed that everyone should be treated equally and judged as individuals, yet now they've had the rug pulled from under them because older generations feel guilty about how they previously behaved. For any older people who feel like they've been disproportionately advantaged in their lives I suggest you give away your house(s) and your money to minorities, rather than blithely stymie the career prospects of your children/grandchildren.
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    Anon got a reaction from G STAR RAM in Joey Barton sacked   
    I couldn't disagree more with the points you've made in this thread. You don't fix or atone for racism with more racism. You have a generation growing up in this country who have been taught and (mostly) believed that everyone should be treated equally and judged as individuals, yet now they've had the rug pulled from under them because older generations feel guilty about how they previously behaved. For any older people who feel like they've been disproportionately advantaged in their lives I suggest you give away your house(s) and your money to minorities, rather than blithely stymie the career prospects of your children/grandchildren.
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    Anon got a reaction from Norman in Joey Barton sacked   
    I couldn't disagree more with the points you've made in this thread. You don't fix or atone for racism with more racism. You have a generation growing up in this country who have been taught and (mostly) believed that everyone should be treated equally and judged as individuals, yet now they've had the rug pulled from under them because older generations feel guilty about how they previously behaved. For any older people who feel like they've been disproportionately advantaged in their lives I suggest you give away your house(s) and your money to minorities, rather than blithely stymie the career prospects of your children/grandchildren.
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    Anon reacted to jimtastic56 in Craig Forsyth - served 10 years   
    Agreed.Doubt we will see another 10 servant ,the way modern football is. Hope he has won over the fans that used to give him stick. Last of Nigel’s very good signings.
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    Anon reacted to Scoot Ram in Charlie Savage   
    Ask Colin Gibson about this possible transfer link. He's got all the answers, he's heard all the rumours... 😜
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    Anon reacted to Alty_Ram in Boro debts written off   
    I don't have an issue with wealthy owners being able to invest in a club's future (how that is administered is a whole other issue of course..) but I think what has always bugged me about this whole mechanism is the 'whiter-than-white', 'holier-than-thou', 'butter wouldn't melt' attitude of quite a lot of the fans of these clubs (it's not just this lot) who were quick to call us cheats because of the money that was being chucked around under Morris, but that somehow these teams are the good guys, some saintly protectors of the game who are always 'playing by the rules' and 'just want a level playing field' or whatever other justification they want kid themselves with. The idea that they are living within their means as clubs is just utter nonsense. They are totally gaming the system but are just better at it and better resourced than Morris was.
    The only real difference between these teams and us under Morris is that their owners haven't run out patience or money yet. They are one chairman's hissy fit away from being left high and dry though. Maybe, just maybe they'll walk away and leave these clubs with draw-down funds to shield them against the worst... or maybe they'll wind the window of their Bentley down and stick a middle finger in the air and drive into the sunset. These teams are literally doing the same thing as us but their chairmen haven't found something more interesting to do yet. You are all of you potentially 'Nasty Cheaty Derby 2.0' but the planets haven't quite aligned yet.

    "But the owners are local and the care about the club so it's all fine.." maybe.. The Oystons were local business folk when they bought Blackpool..
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    Anon got a reaction from stejawh in Wayne Rooney   
    Clough's struggles? The struggle of consistently finishing mid-table? It's laughable that you'd even try to make the comparison. I appreciate they walked into very different situations at Derby, but all I've heard about Rooney since he usurped Cocu is excuses. You can't criticise him because we were bottom of the league when he took over. You can't criticise him because the players aren't being paid on time. You can't criticise him because of the points deduction. So now he's had a chance to prove what he can do at a club without all those issues, and he proved to be even worse than he was here. And the excuse now, he's not been afforded the ability to waste loads of money. Will Rooney's shockingly poor managerial record ever be his fault?
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    Anon got a reaction from AndyinLiverpool in Wayne Rooney   
    Clough's struggles? The struggle of consistently finishing mid-table? It's laughable that you'd even try to make the comparison. I appreciate they walked into very different situations at Derby, but all I've heard about Rooney since he usurped Cocu is excuses. You can't criticise him because we were bottom of the league when he took over. You can't criticise him because the players aren't being paid on time. You can't criticise him because of the points deduction. So now he's had a chance to prove what he can do at a club without all those issues, and he proved to be even worse than he was here. And the excuse now, he's not been afforded the ability to waste loads of money. Will Rooney's shockingly poor managerial record ever be his fault?
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    Anon got a reaction from TigerTedd in Wayne Rooney   
    It's not that simple though. If he'd done that those players would be left wondering why the guy that had got them playing that way had been binned. Rooney was in a tough situation because I think 6th was a false position and there's no way Brum could've maintained that, but he only has himself to blame. No one forced him to take the job. No one forced him to elbow Eustace out of the way and take on unrealistic expectations. He's been deservedly punished for his hubris.
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    Anon got a reaction from Grimbeard in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from Nishfan in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from 61GT in Wayne Rooney   
    By sacking him they only highlight how clueless and deluded they were to appoint him in the first place. Anyone with a functioning brain could look at his first season here to see what Rooney was capable of with an average championship team, a relegation battle.
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    Anon got a reaction from Kathcairns in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from CBRammette in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from sheeponacid in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from Andicis in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from Derby4Me in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from ColonelBlimp in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from Steve How Hard? in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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    Anon got a reaction from Bessie1 in Wayne Rooney   
    By sacking him they only highlight how clueless and deluded they were to appoint him in the first place. Anyone with a functioning brain could look at his first season here to see what Rooney was capable of with an average championship team, a relegation battle.
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    Anon got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Wayne Rooney   
    Cheers. I'd had this comment saved from earlier. It's edited now.
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    Anon got a reaction from YorkshireRam in Steve bloomers washing errrrr I mean watching   
    Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.
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