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  1. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from GB SPORTS in Warne Out Out   
    Always a laugh when this thread gets resurrected after a bad result. I think the funniest thing is that it usually gets resurrected by a pro-Warne poster getting angry at what they imagine someone else might be thinking
     
    "Grrr... I bet this thread will be swarming with non-believers any moment"
    *hits submit reply to bump to the top of the forum*
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    Tombo got a reaction from Scott129 in Warne Out Out   
    Always a laugh when this thread gets resurrected after a bad result. I think the funniest thing is that it usually gets resurrected by a pro-Warne poster getting angry at what they imagine someone else might be thinking
     
    "Grrr... I bet this thread will be swarming with non-believers any moment"
    *hits submit reply to bump to the top of the forum*
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    Tombo got a reaction from REDCAR in Warne Out Out   
    Always a laugh when this thread gets resurrected after a bad result. I think the funniest thing is that it usually gets resurrected by a pro-Warne poster getting angry at what they imagine someone else might be thinking
     
    "Grrr... I bet this thread will be swarming with non-believers any moment"
    *hits submit reply to bump to the top of the forum*
  4. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from HorsforthRam in Warne Out Out   
    Always a laugh when this thread gets resurrected after a bad result. I think the funniest thing is that it usually gets resurrected by a pro-Warne poster getting angry at what they imagine someone else might be thinking
     
    "Grrr... I bet this thread will be swarming with non-believers any moment"
    *hits submit reply to bump to the top of the forum*
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    Tombo got a reaction from DavesaRam in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from Mckram in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from Tamworthram in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from HorsforthRam in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from May Contain Nuts in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from FlyBritishMidland in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
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    Tombo got a reaction from Jimbo Ram in Pro Warne   
    I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.
    I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"
    Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.
    I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.
    But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.
    Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?
    Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?
    Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.
     
    We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.
  12. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  13. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  14. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from admira in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  15. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Eddie in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  16. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Kathcairns in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  17. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  18. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Mimester in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  19. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Steve How Hard? in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  20. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  21. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  22. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  23. Haha
    Tombo got a reaction from JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in Oxford United v Derby County   
    Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.
    What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?
  24. Haha
    Tombo reacted to i-Ram in Safe Standing Is Coming to Pride Park   
    He wants to be consulted. He’s important don’t you know.
    I’ve just had a barrier fitted to my armchair to stop me wandering. No pre-advice, or user guidance. The wife has put the TV remote 2 meters away too. Evil she is.
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    Tombo reacted to Owen87ITK in Safe Standing Is Coming to Pride Park   
    There were two videos produced and at least two separate website articles, with the information also included in the match day preview on the website. 
    It was also featured prominently on BBC Radio Derby & on DerbyshireLive, I believe. 
    What more do you want the club to do?
    The checks are part of parcel of the terms of the safety certificate. Without those you don’t have safe standing, which supporters have been campaigning for for 10+ years. 
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