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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from GenBr in we have a midfield !   
    Neither was Gareth Bale at Bogle's age... 🤔
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from Dethorn in we have a midfield !   
    Neither was Gareth Bale at Bogle's age... 🤔
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from JustOneChrissyMartin in we have a midfield !   
    Neither was Gareth Bale at Bogle's age... 🤔
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from jono in we have a midfield !   
    Neither was Gareth Bale at Bogle's age... 🤔
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from cosmic in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from GboroRam in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Bald women aren't all too common and therefore is something they would likely be fairly insecure about; so yeah, if you crassly identified them using a trait you are aware would likely be upsetting when highlighted, it'd be pretty insulting for them wouldn't it?
    Outside of them being present, it'd be less inappropriate but even so, really not hard to avoid situations such as these by just having a little consideration for others
    Skin colour is always going to be a starkly different matter though because of the connotations often attached. General rule of thumb is don't bring someone's race/skin colour into it, even descriptively. That way there can't be an issue. Simple.
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from GboroRam in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ramsbottom in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from Dethorn in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Bald women aren't all too common and therefore is something they would likely be fairly insecure about; so yeah, if you crassly identified them using a trait you are aware would likely be upsetting when highlighted, it'd be pretty insulting for them wouldn't it?
    Outside of them being present, it'd be less inappropriate but even so, really not hard to avoid situations such as these by just having a little consideration for others
    Skin colour is always going to be a starkly different matter though because of the connotations often attached. General rule of thumb is don't bring someone's race/skin colour into it, even descriptively. That way there can't be an issue. Simple.
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    YorkshireRam reacted to CornwallRam in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    I do think there is a bit of an age thing in this, so ok boomer might well be appropriate - as well as quite amusing.
    I think many people brought up in the 70s and before have a different understanding of what racism is. We grew up with the National Front on the streets, apartheid in the news and Roots on the TV. This defined racism, and racists were properly evil. The vast majority of people hated these racists, but watched the Black and White Minstrels and Jim Davidson. They were being entertaining, not racist by the definition that most people accepted. 
    Yet the understanding of what racism is has moved on. It's not just about being appallingly unpleasant to people of colour - and those racist were always very small in number. It's about prejudice and bias. To be prejudiced you need to make judgements about the group, and that's where racial profiling comes in. Once you have decided that black footballers are lazy, it becomes logical to be biased against them.
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Gen Z all the way 💪
    (I don't really pay attention to generational differences, just wanted to use the boomer meme tbh 😂)
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    This is my understanding as well, micro-aggressions are very obvious to younger people due to us being raised in the culture where they are increasingly being aired. An older demographic, as has been seen, do not generrally assign the same level of importance to these misgivings, hence why there are people then genuinely believe Ramage hasn't done anything wrong, next to folk that are shocked at the level of ignorance in Ramage's comment.
    That last paragraph is incredibly astute and sums the whole point up nicely. Racism isn't necessarily direct, it can take many forms and most of the examples we see are prejudice-focused rather than explicit attacks. While this is a good thing overall and shows signs of societal progress, it's important to still realise the importance of potentially how hurtful and regressive these prejudicial remarks can be. 
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Yeah, but that might just be cos i'm thick 😋
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Ha! You fell into my trap, as a blonde lad myself it's honestly water off a duck's back (and very rarely is commented on). I chose that example as one of the only ones I could confirm with any sort of certainty 😂
    And yes, intent always makes a statement more wounding, but this whole thread is around instances where the intention isn't to offend or cause upset, hence my specificity...
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from LazloW in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    I knew you were going to try and argue the 2 extremes rather than seeing the obvious middle ground. This isn't about differences, it's about the way we communicate and how to avoid upset. Racial matters will always be more problematic than the trivial differences you keep attempting to highlight. The critical factor is determining how trivial and therefore whether it's appropriate to comment on: skin colour- no, hair colour- yes.
    There aren't rules and regulations for this, the easiest thing to do is try and be kind and avoid knowingly making upsetting comments. Going back to the example you gave, if you described a women with alopecia (for example) as ''bald'' to her face, that's massively insensitive; describing someone as ''the blonde lad'' obviously less so. Case by case but there's obviously room between not talking about differences and racial profiling...
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Bald women aren't all too common and therefore is something they would likely be fairly insecure about; so yeah, if you crassly identified them using a trait you are aware would likely be upsetting when highlighted, it'd be pretty insulting for them wouldn't it?
    Outside of them being present, it'd be less inappropriate but even so, really not hard to avoid situations such as these by just having a little consideration for others
    Skin colour is always going to be a starkly different matter though because of the connotations often attached. General rule of thumb is don't bring someone's race/skin colour into it, even descriptively. That way there can't be an issue. Simple.
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from DCFC Ram in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from se1ram in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Really wanna comment 'ok boomer' but being facetious probably isn't conducive to getting my point across...
    It really isn't hard to not racially profile and when someone makes a mistake of that magnitude in this day and age, I don't have too much sympathy, certainly not enough to be ''sad'' that the affected players rightly spoke up about the incident. It's sad that Ramage lost his job but it's also the correct procedure following an incident which is wholly unacceptable in 2020. 
    How you then manage to move to your problematic opinions on positive discrimination (via completely irrelevant anecdotes) I'm not quite sure but this whole post is a bit of a mess.
     
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    YorkshireRam got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in Bielek next season   
    It's Bielik with an 'i', irked me to see so many people get that wrong 😂
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    YorkshireRam reacted to 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    On a separate note, I really admire the way Max has approached this. His statement displays every quality that Ramage so patently lacks. Privately, I'd imagine that he and Jayden would be fuming over this so to address the matter in such a calm and eloquent manner shows real class and a deal of emotional intelligence. 
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    YorkshireRam reacted to cannable in Lack of goals   
    I don’t get why you’ve taken such exception to a comment that had little baring on his point anyway.
    Three bottled one on ones are better opportunities than ten shots ‘on target’ from 30 yards out. 
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