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    Don't Panic reacted to David in Supporters Charter Group Apology   
    I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.
    The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.
    When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.
    Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.
    I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.
    Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.
    On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.
    Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.
    With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.
    As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.
    I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.
    I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!
    Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.
    On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.
    Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.
    I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.
    They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.
    Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.
    No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.
    Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.
    A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.
    I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.
    Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.
    Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.
    I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.
    Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.
    I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 
    David
     
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    Don't Panic reacted to David in Supporters Charter Meeting Questions   
    Ok, submissions and voting is over, below is the order of questions to try and put forward to the club.
    I say try, as I must stress again, there is no guarantees over how many I will personally be able to ask.
    That’s not because we’re yes men, brown nosers who will be sat around laughing and joking which I’ve seen accusations of on other social media platforms.
    I always knew the supporters charter meetings would draw criticism, but we have just a couple of hours with the club with several fan groups, all with a list of their own questions which they are looking to raise.
    Some of which will quite possibly turn into lengthy discussions/answers given the current situation. 
    I know we have a lot of fans that appreciate what we do, and I thank you. Tomorrow I will leave my house around 1pm and not be home until gone midnight, trains, taxis, £50 odd at my own cost, more than the price of a Huddersfield match ticket some of you are moaning about, to take questions that you all were given an opportunity to submit and vote on.
    These are not questions I have come up with by myself, but that we have all contributed to.
    I will do my best to represent you, and if my best isn’t good enough then I can only apologise. All I ask is be respectful.
    Finally please be aware that there is an agreement in place that the meeting will not be discussed until the minutes have been released to us all to share within our groups and on the club website.
    This is in my view the most important meeting since the formation of the Supporters Charter, with widespread frustration and anger at the lack of communication, it’s imperative we get the information out there to you all asap 
    Questions
    David: Mel, how are you and how is your health? (81 votes)
    Rev: Can you give a cast iron guarantee you'll continue to fund the club with the minimum amount needed to ensure survival as a club, until any takeover how ever long that will be? (38 votes)
    G Star: It would appear that insufficient due diligence was carried out on the prospective sales to BZI and Erik Alonso.
    Who carried out due diligence and what measures have been put in place to ensure that we are not sold to such an unprofessional outfit? (38 votes)
    Tombo: Supporters are aware that the club is very much up for sale, but what is the plan for the next few years should a takeover not come to fruition? (37 votes)
    I-Ram: Upon completing the sale of the club, will it once again have a stadium that it owns? (28 votes)
    Ambitious: I think we need to get answers to every point on this, including the details behind each one. Why are we the only club in the entire football league default in payments to the HMRC. Do regulation 16.2, 16.3 and P&S non-submission of audited accounts really relate to purely amortisation or is there more to it? (27 votes)

    Ellafella: The name of Derby County has been radically sullied in the press of late, some of it very unfair. Does the Club have a communications strategy to set the record straight over some of the issues eg how we cheated relegation? How we fixed our accounts? How we sold the ground to ourselves? What we value as a Club eg fairness, community spirited, ambitious. (27 votes)
    Anag Ram: What can we, the fans, do to help at this difficult time? (27 votes)
    Carl Sagan: Derby County Football Club belongs to you, but also to the people of the city and the community of fans around the world. And many are very worried for the club's future. What are your plans for the club if the worst happens and you cannot find someone to buy it off you? (22 votes)
    California Ram: Have you considered selling a small shareholding of the club to fans to bring in immediate capital while continuing to make the club attractive to majority ownership buyers. (19 votes)
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    Don't Panic reacted to David in Morgan Whittaker - joined Swansea permanent deal   
    I’ve never judged any player by the size of his pecker. 
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    Don't Panic got a reaction from SKRam in Colin Kazim-Richards Fan Club   
    Whats this goal thing ??  Seems new to me ?
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    Don't Panic got a reaction from Curtains in Colin Kazim-Richards Fan Club   
    Whats this goal thing ??  Seems new to me ?
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    Don't Panic reacted to TimRam in Buying and Selling Shares   
    Is that you Nick Leeson?
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    Don't Panic reacted to Stive Pesley in New joke thread (trigger alert, may offend if you want it to)   
    There's going to be a round of applause for couriers and delivery drivers. 
     

    It will be some time between 9am and 5pm tomorrow.
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    Don't Panic reacted to Inverurie Ram in Derby County Flags   
    Phillip Cocu mentioning our flags already, the togetherness, the family, the supporters travelling a long way. Good man.
    https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2019/07/cocu-satisfied-with-first-pre-season-test
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    Don't Panic reacted to Alph in Boxing Thread   
    I guess because he fought Wlad that we just assumed AJ would cope with getting hurt better against a lesser opponent but this raises big question marks against his recovery, stamina. 
    He just looks like a pile of bricks when he's hurt and he seems to take entire rounds for him to even get movement back. He was close to being stopped by Wlad. I mean a couple of the knockdowns last night were just piss poor survival. 
    Wilder has been rocked numerous times but he survives. AJ turns into a block of wood and starts hooking. He's terrible at trying to initiate a clinch. 
    He'll come back from this. It's been hard for him being under so much pressure. He takes it well but I think he'll operate better with something to chase again. 
    All that muscle looks great but he only has stamina when he's controlling the pace. Wlad was always going to test him but I don't think anyone would predict Ruiz Jnr to ask questions. Sure he stood a punchers chance as does everyone at those weights. But to beat AJ up? Wow. 
    Fury with class as expected. He's a WUM but he's not a knob head. Wilder is a complete tool. 
    I thought AJ answered any questions over his durability with his win over Povetkin. That last night was really terrible survival. 
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    Don't Panic reacted to angieram in Derby County Flags   
    Punjabi Rams have a new flag, too.
     
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    Don't Panic reacted to loweman2 in The Old Guard   
    The journey is nearing its end now so it was time to catch up with the big one, the man who was brought to derby in September 1966 to score goals, to get Derby in the big time ! That was by the then manager Tim ward, He played for the Rams for a total of 12 years, during which time they won the Football League First Division championship twice, the Football League Second Division championship and promotion to the First Division in 1969, and reached the semi-finals of the European Cup, FA Cup and the League Cup.
    He left Derby for Vancouver Whitecaps and scored 15 goals for the Canadian outfit as they won the 1979 NASL title.
    After his time in North America he rejoined Derby in the early 1980s.
    He made a record 589 appearances for Derby in his two spells, 486 of which came in league games.
    he scored 201 goals, second only to Steve Bloomer and missed only four league matches in seven seasons between 67 & 74, not a coincidence that these were our most successful years.
    he didn’t say much but when he did everybody listened !
    it is of course the king 
    Kevin Hector was quality, I spent an hour and a half with him and we discussed all things Derby County, another really pleasant guy, funny and razor sharp with his memory ! 
    More great stories, he didn’t really see eye to eye with Mr Clough but he didn’t need to, Cloughie couldn’t play his mind games with his top scorer.
    still looks fit and well and enjoys his football, he is often to be found in the south stand, but he says it’s nothing to what the BBG was but we all know that.
    another one sadly disgruntled with the way that the club view them, that has been the common core running through this journey, none of them feel valued by the club, yesterday’s men who no longer generate money for the club so left out to graze.
    as I have said many times before they could surely be put to use by the club !
    what a legend !
    a king of kings !
    king Kev !

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