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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to hintonsboots in Sonny Blu Lo-Everton - signed   
    Thanks for Cher ing it mate.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Carl Sagan in If not Rosenior, who?   
    If you had a blank slate with no one at the helm and were thinking, in this situation who would be the best realistic manager for Derby, I don't think you would pick a rookie manager such as Liam Rosenior out of everyone available. But you might pick Paul Warne. 
    Then, if you were depressed by Derby's weird way of playing over the last 2-3 seasons, insisting on inviting a press and playing across the defence at every opportunity, always trying and often failing to thread the ball between marauding attackers, and you knew Rosenior had been coaching this way of playing, you definitely wouldn't want him.
    As the dust settles I'm feeling positive and hopeful that we've probably found a better way forward, that will mean more exciting and less nerve-shredding football.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to uttoxram75 in Welcome to Derby, Paul Warne.   
    Paul, if you read this forum, welcome to B4!
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to uttoxram75 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    I was more than happy with Liam Rosenoir as our manager, interim or otherwise. I believe he would have got this bunch of players purring, he seemed to have respect from all of them, the kids from the academy as well as the more experienced pros who he signed recently.
    I have no doubt whatsoever that we would have been a proper contender for promotion, I was genuinely looking forward to this team gelling and starting to perform while seeing Liam grow into the role.  He will be a top Manager one day.
    It is what it is. Mr. Clowes has made his call and I will be behind Paul Warne from the first match. In fact, I'll be arguing to give him more time when some of us who wanted Liam gone will want Warne gone if we don't win every match.
    Fckn love Derby, Fckn love Derby,?♥️
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to BramcoteRam84 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Definitely been through a roller coaster of emotions on this during the week. I was extremely disappointed Liam didn’t get the job, even more disappointed they gave it to a League 1 specialist long ball merchant in what I thought was a knee jerk short sighted move. 
     
    After a few days of sleeping on it and doing my research into Paul Warne, I remain gutted for Liam and think we’ve lost a good one who could take us all the way to the premier league and I’m sure he will do really well elsewhere. But I have a warm fuzzy feeling about the potential future under Warne. 
     
    He isn’t necessarily the long ball merchant I thought, he seems to be someone who adapts to what he has. He’s driven ambitious and I love the fact he’s already talking to key players about wanting to get to the premier league. He’s likeable and will absolutely give his heart and soul to the cause. I hope for his own self preservation he keeps a bit of distance between himself and the club, but I’m not sure that’s really his way. This will be a tough unforgiving gig compared to his previous jobs but he wants to test himself and if he gets it right, he could be a hero and he’s the sort of character that would want to see it through to conclusion on principle and not flutter his eyelids at the next job.
    His record at this level is unrivalled and I really look forward to seeing how he gets on.
    As for Clowes, I was hasty to compare this to a Mel appointment. He’s given himself time he’s been considered and Warne is the man he clearly thinks will take us to where we want to be. He deserves our backing. Reading the minutes from the supporters meeting I’m really with what’s happening off the field for the first time in years. 
     
    Bring it on!!!! ????????
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to jono in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    It’s seemed a heck of a long time over perhaps the last 3 years supporting a team that scores so few goals relative to our peers; wherever we have been in league. It’s the single issue that has eaten at me as a fan. If Warne changes that and we are at the right end of the table then in most senses, I’ll be happy. What has been frustrating is that I know we have had and have players with goals in their armoury but somehow that fundamental has got lost in a lot of theory and over coaching. (IMO ?) 
     
     
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Donegal Ram in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Just on the four year deal. It is so negative so far. Maybe we needed to offer the four years to lure Warne down to a lower league. Maybe Clowes sees it as if he does really well and gets us promoted this year and again does well next then he is protecting the club from him being poached for pennies. DC may see him as the man to change the fortunes of the club.  I see it as a real positive appointment. Respectful to LR but, I think he is too media trained and all round goodie two shoes. I like little more bite and aggression that Warne will bring. 
    We are on the up. Thanks David Clowes. 
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to mwram1973 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    For me, style is irrelevant, results are needed to get out this league. Tapping it around at the back and getting 80% possession but scoring less than Burton isn't going to get us promotion imo. All those moaning about Rowettball, would 100% take that if we were constantly winning games and achieved promotion, anyone who says otherwise is a liar and just being awkward to stand by their silly opinions ?
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to FlyBritishMidland in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Thought about this a bit over the last day or so, maybe too much ?.  Still a bit 50/50 - would have liked LR to be given the job as he’s done pretty well in the circumstances but can also understand why PW has been appointed given his experience in L1.
    DC is a businessman and it’s interesting that LR had the interim role for so long.  This is quite common in leadership roles in business.  Either to hold the fort while recruitment is ongoing or to give someone a chance to see if they’re up to it meaning it’s low risk if it doesn’t work.  He said he’d have a full look at the structure of the club.  I would suspect he and his team have looked at other clubs - those that have been in admin, been relatively sustainable, long term success, different operating models.
    PW is head coach so perhaps we might have a Director of Football/ Sporting Director.  Maybe LR didn’t want to work in that structure?  Or, random thought, maybe DC has observed LR and thinks he might be a better fit for that role than manager?  Who knows.
    DC was also a pilot by trade.  I bet this means he has a really good plan and process, lots of “what if’s”, trusts his plan and process and will give it time, stays calm under pressure, and everything is well thought out.  That’s why I’m not convinced this is a “promotion at all costs” appointment.  I think this season is about getting everything in place - players, right manager (or head coach) with a long term deal, the right club structure, etc.  Then we push for it next season and get out of L1 by the time the restrictions are lifted.  We’ve discussed how we’re a few weeks behind fitness and prep with the team but in terms of the structure and running of the club we’re months behind.
     
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Archied in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    If you do your research and choose your manager to put on a contract because you believe he is the right man for the job then 9 games is nowhere near enough, if you have to have an interim manager who don’t feel at all sure is right for the job then nine games is enough especially if the performance s are exactly what you feared they may be,
    perhaps clowes like many really doesn’t want the style of football Liam produces with slow slow messing round at the back and keep the ball at all costs , let’s be honest it’s become clear we are just as likely to get caught out and lose a goal messing round at the back as we are getting caught on the break whilst going all out to score ourselves,
    just the way I see it on the football I’ve watched play with Liam not only as interim manager but as coach / no 2 as well,
    decent bloke but time will tell whether he is a manager , I wish him well
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Ambitious in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Thinking pragmatically, which players do people think this will benefit? 
    I know a lot of people have aired the idea that this would work against Max Bird, but I actually think the opposite. Warne used Barlaser as their defensive central midfielder and essentially made him a key component in their team. I also think Knight and Cashin are likely to benefit. I'd imagine Dobbin will likely move to a striker position, alongside Collins/McGoldrick. Osula fits the type of striker that Rotherham have been very successful at implementing and the rumour was that Warne wanted him at Rotherham this season. 
    Based on how he's had Rotherham line up in games (home and away) in both the latter part of last season, and this. I would imagine we will be playing something like - ignoring Wildsmith in goal: 
    Davies
    Chester                                           Cashin
    The back three usually has one deep lying centre back, in their case Richard Wood - in ours most likely Curtis Davies. The other two centre backs play quite wide and quite a distance in front of Davies. This was true in all the ones I've seen from last season and this. I think Stearman, Roberts, Rooney and perhaps even Forsyth are likely to play and cover here behind the three above. 
    Bird
    Barkhuizen        Knight          Hourihane      Mendez-Laing
    The central midfield three pivot around a central point, in their case Barlaser - in our case most likely Bird. Barlaser usually touches the ball more than any other Rotherham player. The other two central midfielders usually touch the ball between the 6-11th placed players in the team. I believe these are essentially used to reduce space and create opportunities. They're likely to gamble more than most. Knight for his energy will almost certainly be a permanent fixture in the team. Smith will probably sit behind him to cover. The lack of a number 10 probably means Sibley will be vying with Hourihane for game time. The wide two positions usually have a one more attacking than the other, therefore you could potentially see Barkhuizen/Mendez-Laing on one side with Roberts/Forsyth on the other - this will no doubt alternate based on a number of factors. 
    Collins         McGoldrick
    The front two are probably the easiest to call, with Collins and McGoldrick the likely first choice at this point. Dobbin will get a lot of opportunities in this position, possibly even Sibley too. Paul Warne wanted Osula at Rotherham too, reportedly, so perhaps look out for him. He usually likes the physical aspect in strikers, i.e. Ladapo, Kieffer Moore...etc. Not usually the most technically gifted footballers but disruptive. I don't think he walks straight into the team but definitely see some opportunities for him. 
    All in all, I'm confident the team we put together in the summer actually complements the system that Warne has implemented at Rotherham. I believe the biggest shift will be in the likes of Bird, who will need to improve but can actually take huge strides in his career mirroring Barlaser who most would've said was an inferior player. I also think the system opens the door to Rooney, who I believe will eventually win a place in the team and based on what I've seen will hold it down.
    The only other thing I noted, to no surprise, was how compact his teams play together. You can definitely see a well drilled team purely by looking at the data and aggregate player positions over the course of the game. 
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster got a reaction from Grimbeard in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    I might get some pelters here but personally I think the potential appointment of Paul Warne is possibily the best option available to us at this stage of our " rebirth ".

    LR clearly was influential in WR's team, some even suggested he was THE tactician in the set-up. Our away form was woeful last season, and continues to be so. There's absolutely no chance of promotion repeatedly making the same mistakes away from home.

    If you've not listened the the BBC podcast Moment Of Truth, where he and Oxford's Karl Robinson were mic'ed up for the second half of last season, I suggest you do. He is a supreme man manager. Direct yes - very!  A complete sweary-Mary, but he can get players to run through brick walls for him. He knows what levers to pull for each of his players. I think we're all agreed we have one of the better squads in our division, but Paul Warne has done much more with lesser players and less than half our budget in this division. I listened to the podcast and did think he would be just the sort of motivator that would be ideal for us at this level. As much as I admire LR's loyalty , if you've ever seen the cameras in the dressing room, he's very vanilla and I'd even suggest uninspiring .

    " But he plays hoofball doesn't he, Paul Warne? " I hear some cry. He plays with what he's got and the budget he's got.  I think he'd be licking his lips at the opportunity to work with our squad. One thing I'd be confident of, based on what I've heard of him when he was mic'ed ( is that even a word? ) up is that nothing will be left on the pitch. He demands it from every player.

    I'll take that with our squad. If we're not good enough in the final analysis, I'll accept that. But it won't be for the lack of Paul Warne pushing them to their limits and accepting anything less than 100% from every player. Oh, and his track record in this division isn't too shabby, so he's not all talk.

    I like everything David Clowes has done so far, measured, not knee-jerk, but I believe he's seen enough to be brave when change is needed.

    We will certainly be in for a hell of a ride if we do appoint him.

    DC, you've got huge gonads Sir. I applaud you.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Yani P in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    One thing about Warne he is an emotional character and builds very strong relationships with his players..so I guess we will expect to see the same togetherness and team spirit that has served us well in recent times.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to BucksRam in A small insight into the psychology of Paul Warne...   
    Agree - just listened thru' - some great thoughts and views.  As an excerpt:
    "Just press, just xxxx press....press and match them all over the pitch. Can you get the ball out wide {so it's} one v one? Just be quick and positive, and quick when it's out there, don't slow the game down. Play forward, run xxxxx forward, you've got 2 outstanding strikers, get the ball in the fricking penalty box. Give the strikers something to play for...."
    I'm sold!
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster got a reaction from Colm in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    We all knew we had a fabulous squad for this division. If I'd spent 53 million on our club and we were on the edge of the playoffs early doors with a rookie manager, still not having sorted out our away form, I'd be thinking " for an extra 750K in compensation I could get better ", I'd be twisting, not sticking.

    Don't forget he was a very reluctant fan-buyer. He doesn't have billions. 53 mill is still a massive risk. The only way I would have stuck with Liam at this point is if he was six points clear at the top of the division. Even then I'd be fretting...
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to RoyMac5 in Rosenior or Warne?   
    When we saw Birdy play in preseason against (name forgotten, lol) 'foreign team', I thought that at last we would see him flourish. But no back to CDM and mostly sideways passing. Knight at RB when we've got a youngster to develop is a crime.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to BucksRam in Rosenior or Warne?   
    Despite my somewhat tongue in cheek post at the top of this thread, I've gone with Warne.  A vote with my head.  My heart says Liam inasmuch he's given his all, stuck by us and, without his graft, we'd probably not have half as a competitive club as we do now in terms of players through the door.  He gets huge thanks from me on that.  But....
    ..... yes we're 7th, but with the players we have, so we should be, if not higher.  We've not won away. Not even scored.  We've lost from winning positions. Even those wins we have had, none were easy or comfortable, and could have gone either way. Our tactics are readable and more experienced managers are setting up "lesser" teams to sit, then press, catch the error, and score. It's happening almost every game. Lincoln - we had 67% possession, lost. Plymouth, 2 nil up, lost. Fleetwood, 61% possession, scraped a goalless draw. 74% possession at Shrewsbury, again a goalless draw.  All that possession, nearly all in our half - we're not going to scare team, or score from there.
    Many on here have shouted that Bird and Hourihane doesn't work, yet have continued to be played together.  Knight, best attacking midfielder in the league, arguably the Championship too, played at RB (yes I know there was an argument for that, but even so). None of this in truth makes great reading. Hence Warne gets my vote. 
     
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Ian Buxton's Bat in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Great question.
    I heard that speech on the BBC Moment of Truth podcast........after which they drew 0-0 with Shrewsbury away and were rubbish!
    Mixed feelings. Sorry to see LR go and would have like him to succeed. But I think PW is also a decent bloke (i.e. is a thinker and isn't a bully boy ranter) and he knows his way around this division.
    I'm not sure there will be a massive change in style - more a change in pace and positivity.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Ram-Alf in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    This low?

    Damn, You said Budget ?
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to ANGERMAN1 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    Well, I'm certainly rather happy about this, if many others seem apoplectic.
    Everyone continues to stress how much of a 'nice guy' Liam was and yet Millers fans would say exactly the same about Warne. Regardless, being "nice" doesn't make one a good manager. I'd also argue that Rosenior didn't convince me with the way he spoke about the game, as others suggest he did for them.
    Also, whilst we could agree that LR was learning, I'd argue it was too slowly. That sounds laughable considering how short a stint he has had as interim manager but he himself has vehemently defended the pathetic decision to fanny about at the back. He was proud of it, yet it couldn't be more clear that this was a foolish move. That is gravely concerning, in regards to LR's future as a competent manager. PW has learned well and Rotherham fans mostly adore him.
    Fans will always find things to moan about but so many have been so right in pointing out our failings and imbalances this season and yet a stubborn LR persisted with poor team structures and naive tactical decisions. Again, nothing here shows LR will make a good manager.
    So, we come to 'style of play' and I feel we've been quite unanimous in thinking that although we've shown brilliance at times this season, we've played the ball too slowly and predictably too often. Again, in an early interview, LR said we needed to be "more patient" (MORE?!).
    For what it's worth, whilst Rotherham tend to play direct, their passages of play can vary and there are many Rotherham fans saying they liked the football their team displayed. I'd take only conceding 11 goals away all season in League 1, as Rotherham did. We might steal some wins away from home then ?
    But in all seriousness, I hope this has been agreed (allegedly we approached PW before their game against Boro) and he brings his backroom staff too. Onwards and upwards. I'm even more excited for the rest of the season now. Bring it on!
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Kinder in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    I was really surprised by this and my first emotion was to feel very sorry for Liam. He seems like a very nice guy and has put his all into the job. I wish him success wherever he ends up.
    On reflection, I can see why DC has made the decision, particularly now. He’s carried out a top to bottom review of the club, like he said he would. I’m speculating but I imagine he said he’d give Liam 9 or 10 games and then assess. The fact we’ve got an international break makes it the right time to review.
    So what are the positives / negatives? To me, the positives are:
    1. We’re in 7th, level on points with play offs.
    2. We’ve looked very good in parts of some games.
    3. Liam clearly worked very hard to build a squad and was a big factor in certain players coming on board. The players seem to like him.
    4. He’s shown the club loyalty and we really need some stability.
    Negatives:
    1. We haven’t scored an away league goal all season.
    I’m not going to put any other negatives because this is so alarming. We’re 2 1/2 months into the season and we haven’t scored away from home. How can DC carry out a review of the season so far and get past this? Does he hope that we start converting chances?
    Is Liam’s style of play conducive to winning in League 1, particularly away from home? I’m really not convinced. We faff around at the back until we’re pressed and then the keeper / Cashin launch a long diagonal with little success. But Liam strongly believes in this philosophy so that is unlikely to change.
    I don’t know how to feel about Paul Warne. I’m not going to hold one interview against him when he was clearly emotional so if he comes in, I’ll get right behind him. My worry would be whether the players can quickly adapt to his style of play.
     
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Mr. P in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    He plays with 1 defensive midfielder!?! What kind of sorcery is this! 
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to ram59 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    I really like LR and think that he did really well recruitment wise, considering the restrictions, but his continued use of the slow ponderous possession football from the ridiculous goal kicks and passing across the back line, has been driving me crazy during his and Rooney's tenure. I can remember only 1 goal against Fulham that could be attributed to this tactic, whereas many goals and even more chances have been conceded using this tactic. I see this tactic being used at the top level with similar success levels, even though those players are more talented, but so are the opposition. It seems to me that some big wig in UEFA coaching has decided that this is the way to play football and every coach getting his pro license has to go down this route.
    Oh, for the old days before UEFA told everyone else how to play football and we had the likes of Clough, Shankly, Revie etc, who all had different ideas on how to play football, when football was far more entertaining than it is today. If every team plays to the same coaching manual, then they become predictable and teams cancel each other out, unless you can spend megabucks on the very best players. Back in the old days, good managers/coaches could surprise the bigger established teams. Look what Cloughie achieved with relatively unknown group of players, could you imagine Cloughie or Shanks going on a UEFA pro license course?
    It reminds of a time, many years ago, when I had many great games of squash with a friend of mine. He used to receive coaching from the local 6th form college and used to get annoyed when I would win a point by playing the 'wrong' shot, the coaching manual said that I should have played the shot that he had then anticipated and not the random one that I had played. My point is that there is still and always has been a place in sport for being unpredictable.
    To be honest our football under Cocu, Rooney and LR has become boring, slow and pedestrian for large parts of each game. How I long for a bit of variety and getting some pace into our play.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster got a reaction from Ellafella in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    I don't think it was a knee-jerk reaction on David Clowes' part.
    I think he's been carefully considering since he took over.
    Obviously he will see more than you or I.
    I have confidence in him and his decision.
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    Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster reacted to Rammy03 in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    It's just the feeling I have. He is a rookie, he's been a part of the coaching staff over the last few years where we haven't been able to buy a win away from home. He's a great guy as everyone has said but I just don't think he has the steel or grit needed at the moment. I think we need a proper experienced manager to get us out this league this season. 
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