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May Contain Nuts

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  1. 33 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

    In recent posts, you talk about problematic individuals, the division on the forum, bullying, and horrible stuff being said towards those with doubts about Warne.

    Yet in the past, you have called me an AI chatbot, a slick PR mastermind, a potential contestant on the Traitors, a fraud, a fictional character. And that’s only publicly.

    Maybe you should reflect on your own posting style too?

    I have said that your posts read as such...

    ...because rather often they do!

    What's wrong with being a slick PR mastermind or a potential contestant on The Traitors, exactly? They were kind of meant as compiments, albeit backhanded ones. I'm genuinely impressed by your abilties in that regard (it takes a level of intelligence and charm I don't possess) even if I'm not a fan of how you use them. Honestly I think you could make a killing on that show, so to speak!

    The disparity between your attitude toward Cocu and your attitude to Warne will always mark you out as a massive hypocrite in my eyes. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. I've made an effort in the past week or so to drop the issue, and intended to carry that on, because I realised it was unfair to keep targetting your posts, and I'm really not that person.

    I just don't buy your persona on here, again, I'm sorry for that but  I don't really think theres much you can do to change that over the internet. I've also said that i'm sure you're a lovely guy when not in posting mode. I'd rather be open about these things.

  2. 55 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

    Maybe this forum struggles with people who just intended to make a simple observation, but write it in language that sounds highly critical?

    Instead of:

    "Theb were on it for 15 minutes before we scored. Deathly silent before then despite the myth that standing up and making noise go hand in hand"

    How about...

    "Theb were on it for 15 minutes before we scored. Was quieter than I expected it to be beforehand though. I was hopeful the safe standing would have increased the noise, but so far it doesn't seem to have made an impact"

    I'd be lying if I said that though.

    I've never thought safe standing would improve things, I expected no change to the atmosphere. That said yeah, I hoped to be proved wrong.

  3. 19 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

    Not denying it but probably for similar reasons to yourself, I felt a certain element (who are still very active) are/were relentless in their negativity about Warne and started to bite in response to it, not because of some love of Warne more just through a genuine disbelief and irritation by such pessimistic comment. And for clarity I don’t mean the well articulated and reasoned words of a number of posters, just a certain few who won’t allow any credit to the man or his methods.

    I took a week off the forum as it was genuinely intruding on my life and bringing me down, and it helped me realise that my thoughts and opinions on it are what they are, if other people feel differently that’s up to them, where I can have a reasonable conversation with people I will and if not, stuff it, people can enjoy their misery and I’ll carry on being a naively optimistic little soul. 

    Aye.

    Without getting all flowery, I think our discussions stand as proof against the idea everyone just has an entrenched view, and that's that.

    I have some perfectly respectable conversations when I'm replying to posts such as this, and it frustrates me no end when someone comes along who is interested only in dismissing what's been said without first reading it properly and trying to understand what's been said.

  4. 25 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

    In the here and now, you say?

    Yet the original conversation stemmed from your comment about Warne’s past in the Championship and how you ‘daren’t mention it’…

    OK, yes, in the here and now, we are 2nd and on a run where we have won more than 70% of our games. Is that not enough for you?

    What advantages do we have over the two other main contenders Portsmouth and Bolton? Do you think we should be finishing above them and if we don’t, is that a failure in your eyes?

     

    My here and now relates to your constant redirections to other teams' success or otherwise at this level, which is largely irrelevant because there are so many differences between us, them, the league, everything to the point that you really cant use what someone else did  - or is doing - as a measure of our own performance.

    Is being 2nd and winning most games good enough for me? In isolation, in the short term, yes, of course. I can't just turn my brain off at that though.

    Our advantage over Portsmouth and Bolton is that we have a manager who has such a good record of promotion out of this league, which in the short term should count for a lot. I've always said that we should be a top 3 team come the end of the season, and we're on course for that.

    I'm not going to spew forth platitudes for someone meeting requirements though, maybe it seems harsh to some but I'm, judging Warne to a high standard, based on everything that's been said about him by those at the club.

    I'm massively positive about the future of our club and it annoys me when people seem so obsessed with raking over the coals re: the administration/restrictions  in order to praise the manager for hitting par.

  5. 18 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

    There’s been an accelerated shift in your tone on this matter, where I know you once looked to be balanced and had your concerns it does seem the more extreme pro-Warne posters have got to you. That’s the second time today I’ve seen you use a phrase saying Warne has fans wrapped around his little finger, which carries all kinds of connotation around manipulation on Warne’s part and a lack of choice/independent thought by those who do back him to blind faith extremes.

    You and others don’t like Warne’s football, don’t think he’s right long term for the club for a number of reasons well articulated mostly by yourself and others with a few more extreme and less rational posters, and some think he is right for the club and express their views. It’s all opinions, I say this as someone who for the most part I respect their posts and views even if I don’t always share them, try not to get so wound up by it. 
    If he’s not the man long term he’ll be found out and that’ll be that. For now he’s what we’ve got and it doesn’t appear to be changing, so discuss what’s pants and what could be better but don’t get dragged down by it as it doesn’t appear to be changing at the moment 

    Appreciate your candour and I don't entirely disagree, I do think recently there has been an increase in posts taking an extreme view against people with doubts/complaints though, which is what I'm reacting against and may give the impression my own views have becoem less balanced. I do feel more agitated by other posters than a few weeks ago, but it's probably based on a few (awful) individuals being problematic than the general tone of posts.

    I also feel there are times where you have taken a side, in spite of your desire not to, in favour of one side of the argument and may have been swayed a little bit toward those with a more dismissive POV and have - intentionally or not - started to not give full weight to some of the horrible stuff aimed towards those not fully behind Warne.

    I think the signing of Adams was excellent but I won't ignore that that he wouldn't have been needed if the Fornah hadn't proves a poor signing (so far) - that opinion seems to have set a couple of folk off, as have my views on McGoldrick, but these are specific posts and by the by, not really meant for discussiuon here.

  6. 1 minute ago, Jourdan said:

    For you, Warne is limited and won’t ever change.

    Well that's wrong. I've never I want him sacked or that I'm not open to the idea of him improving.

    I've seen and noted signs of progress, some of them he's regressesd on, some not. I've given out credit where I feel it's appropriate. What I do believe (based on what I've seen) is that said progress and the understanding of how it's happened seem to have taken a rather long amount of time come to fruition, I think he's learning but he's a slow learner.

    My biggest mistake has been calling out posters for their attitudes toward others, which people have taken to mean I'm part of some Warne hating faction. I don't like people being bullied and rounded on for how they feel aout a football manager and I find many of the comments on here to come across as bullying and often behind a fgacade of humourous gfs. The reality is that I find him a frustrating and contradictory figure, and i'm not sold on the idea that he's as open and honest as he seems. The divisive b******* on this forum really tires me out, and the labelling always seem t cto come from one direction.

    I'm sorry but If you don't know what hype I'm referencing I'm not sure you've been paying attention. He's bigged up at every opportunity. If he hadn't been bigged up to a certain degree I'd have a far more favorable opinion of him. I hold him to the standard he's been allocated by those talking of his stature.

    The talk of Ferrari showrooms and comparisons to Rotherham's budget just does nothing for me. We are in the here and now, and he has many advantages over most managers at this level either by experience or budget.

  7. 2 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

    I always go to work on a Monday with a sore throat after supporting the Rams.

    I never said your not a proper supporter if you don't sing. I do feel you don't have a right to complain about singing if you don't join in yourself though.

    Anyway, up the Rams. lets cheer them om to promotion.

    Not a complaint, just an observation! I appreciate the efforts of all who sing but if we're claiming 'the south stand were on it all game' then it would have been a lot more noticeable?

    I feel that's where this forum really struggles tbh, everything is seen as a criticism even when it's not.

  8. 3 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said:

    Did you not understand what this thread was about was it to complicated for you to understand it was a feel good thread. 

    Have you posted anything 'feelgood' then?

    I've contributed a rather lovely song to the thread, you've contributed... an insult.

    Way to go.

  9. 6 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said:

    Stop being such an attention seeking child 

    How is that attention seeking, exactly?

    Are you seeking attention by telling me to stop seeking attention? It might get you a few likes, I guess.

    Are you a massive hypocrite? I don't think I even need to guess that one.

  10. 10 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

    I assume you sang your heart out?

    Absolutely not! I hate the idea that you're not a proper supporter unless you're comfortable letting loose your inhibitions and shouting random s*** in support of a football team.

    I appreciate it  - and wouldn't be without it at matches - when others do but it's not for me, I couldn't and I wouldn't. I'd die of embarrassment 'singing' some of the stuff the fans come out witth, I hate the sound of my voice, and I don't want to spend 3 days recovering from a sore throat after every match!

    That doesn't mean my ears don't work though, and even if there are a hardcore few in the south stand making it doesn't really come across, unfortunately, even though there's been a 12 year campaign for the white elephant of safe standing.

  11. 6 minutes ago, davenportram said:

    The standards he has to live up to are simply to get promotion. The expectation of style of play is too high and irrelevant. We play in equal parts during matches - fast paced attacking, one touch, free flowing football alongside the hard working defensive workmanlike play.

     

     

    With a 4 year contract,  all of the hype behind his appointment and a 5 year plan, the standards are higher than that.

    The number of supporters he has wrapped around his little finger is bloody bizarre to me.

    We don't play in equal parts  either. It's 7 parts tedium where it's not clear what we're supposed to be doing, to 3 parts excitement when playrs remember just how good they are.

  12. 2 minutes ago, Returning ram said:

    BillyD if that means that much to you. if it's against forum rules, happy for @David to remove my access 😊

    I don't want you removed! Appreciate the honesty, just think its always best to be up front about such matters.

  13. 41 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

    Warne's signings have taken some criticism...

    But.... Bradley, Niambe,  Wilson, re-signing Bird, Elder, Nelson,  Adams....  not so shabby...

    Again, the point has never been that they're bad players, it's that at best they provide competition for players Warne didn't bring in and have not yet proven themselves any better that those who were here, despite the outlay on wages.

    Including Bird in the list of his signings yet excluding Fornah? Hmmm, ok?

  14. 6 minutes ago, Returning ram said:

    Really, you haven't mentioned it before 

    Not as many times as you've outright dismissed any opinion that doesn't align with yours.

    The whole 'Hi, I'm Returning Ram, I used to have another account" thing has never sat right with me tbh - duplicate concurrent accounts are banned yet apparently you can waltz on with another name (as long as the other isn't banned) and carry on old disputes?

    Who were you before your return?

  15. Again it reminds me of that time I criticised Chris Hughton and got a 3000 character response from someone who hadn't been on and hasn't been on the forum since , extolling his virtues and dismissing what I'd said.

  16. 16 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

    You can mention his past all you want, but it’s just one experience at one club at the end of the day.

    Just because he couldn’t establish Rotherham in the Championship doesn’t necessarily mean he will automatically fail here.

    In the same way look at Chris Wilder and Nathan Jones. They had great success in the Championship at one club but couldn’t replicate it elsewhere.

    We’re not a replica of Rotherham. I think being in the Championship with a club with greater potential and backing could produce very different results for Warne but equally he could struggle. We have to wait and see.

    The way you carry on though, we might as well throw in the towel the moment we get promoted.

    It's not one experience at one club, it's three.

    Look at other clubs who's manager could only find success managing that club? Errrrm, OK? I wouldn't particularly back Jones or Wilder either, just as I wouldn't want us to appoint Aidy Boothroyd even though his achievements are bigger than Warne's. Phil Brown has  more to his CV than Warne but nobody would put him forward as the next DCFC manager

    We're not a replica of Rotherham but.. we're hardly dissimilar, and this is just another "well what if things turn out better, even though I have no evidence they will" style post. There's nothing to suggest Warne will have greater backing in the Championship either. It's all just blind faith because we're doing well where Warne is comfortable.

    The way YOU carry on we've appointed a complete unknown who we should have no expectation of, but the hype around the bloke has been insane, and the standards he has to live up to will naturally follow.

  17. Anyway, giving out good vibes...

    I sealed the deal today
    I brokered controllers with my best poker face
    A rubber stamp for summer camp for the entire human race
    I sealed the deal today

    I worked out the way to be blessed
    A future that suits us and not just the well-dressed
    A utopia, an adventure, and a playground for the best
    I worked out the way, hooray

    I sussed out the steps to success
    That no-one is worse and that no-one else the best
    You are just the same as me and everybody else
    I sussed out the steps myself

    Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
    We're going to the future
    Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
    We're going to the future
    Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
    We're all gonna win
    Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah

     

  18. 16 minutes ago, davenportram said:

    No fit strikers

    but we still managed to be the better team and have a threat in front of goal 

     

    he’s a crap manager

    He's a good Lague One manager with serious limitations which stop him being anything more than a League One manager, unless he proves otherwise.

    At ths point though, if you dare mention his past at Championship level you're a Warne-hating outcast.

  19. 37 minutes ago, Archied said:

    Perhaps we just went for the old rope a dope trick ,,,, worked a treat 😀😀😀😀

    Perhaps, if you want to take Warne's place and present a vainglorious attitude toward today's game and wish to expel any doubt whatsoever that there were any faults in our initial lineup.

    Unfortunately it seems you're the sort who would read Warne pointing out why it went right/wrong and congratulate him for acknowledging it, while reading the same reasons it went right/wrong from 'anti-warne' posters and castigating them for their opinion.

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