San Fran Van Rams

The Joy of Cheques.... 
Wasn’t that a 1970s, er, "self help" book..... ?

You’re going to be gutted this morning, and rightly so.
But it ain’t all bad.
When we dropped out of the old 2nd division into the 3rd in 1984 things were in many ways, worse.
We didn’t (quite) have the financial issues, but we had a horrible team and the entire season was utterly depressing and devoid of hope in a way this season hasn’t been.
My personal highlight of an utterly depressing season was meeting Dave Watson in a Little Chef on the A1 after we spanked Cambridge away 3-0 in the FA Cup. That was pretty much it for ducks sake.
AND we had not just relegation, but the ignominy of losing to Plymouth in the FA Cup quarter-final to contend with after we had dragged them back to the BBG.
We all thought that we’d bounce right back when we did get relegated and the arrival of Arthur Cox just emboldened that belief.
An opening day away loss to Bournemouth, when Bournemouth then were more like the equivalent of Exeter now, didn’t dissuade us.
Of course, we didn’t bounce back and ended up outside the top 6.
But we had some BRILLIANT away days that season, Hull, Lincoln, and the last game of the season at Newport spring to mind.
It was a whole lot more fun than the previous season because we were, for the most part, competing and you could see what Arthur was trying to do.
There’s something fun about going to smaller clubs and taking the place over. Those of you who travel to away games know that the camaraderie is special.
In fact, the adversity that we have faced this season has developed that camaraderie, only it’s done it at home.
I work online and use social media a lot and the admiration for Derby’s support, especially those of you who travel away is a delight to read. I’ve even read genuine Forest and Leeds fans say they’re impressed.
And what’s not to be impressed about?
Forget the trolls who are loving this, the REAL football supporters appreciate and understand what Rooney has dragged the club through and the guy is universally respected, exponentially more so than when he was merely an excellent player.
He’s now an excellent ex-player and an excellent human being. Time will tell if he can become an excellent manager, but the signs are promising.
The second year under Arthur we did come up and that season was even better for road trips..
I’ve seen Derby beat Benfica, Real Madrid, every top English club multiple times and Forest many times. But if I were to list the best 5 games I’ve ever attended, Derby at home to Rotherham in the old 3rd Division on a Friday night would be up there.
That game with that penalty that took us back up to what would now be the Championship was a raucous, intense and then delirious atmosphere ending in an effing celebration comparable with any I have witnessed - although to be fair, my memory is a tad blurry because we did hit the pub hard.
I doubt there was a Liverpool fan that got anything like the joy from beating Man City in the cup semi or will get more if they win the thing, than we Derby fans got from squeaking past Rotherham that night.
The fact is, winning is just fun, no matter what division you are in. And beating adversity is fun too. So much more satisfying and enjoyable than just delivering on what’s expected.
Somebody posted that they hope we're not that team that thinks they will bounce back up.
I don't really care if fans think that. It's totally irrelevant.
What is relevant is what WR thinks and what he allows his staff and players to think.
And I have no doubt whatsoever that he'll not allow that entitled type of mindset to creep in.
The good news is we have renewed hope for a stable club, a very promising manager in place, an Academy that is flourishing even if it is being pillaged and some wins to look forward to.
We are where we are, so we may as well embrace it and have fun. And you will have some fun, I promise.

I'm fairly impressed by some of the provided answers from Kirchner. He's being very open and forthcoming with answers, I particularly liked his reference to our academy infrastructure, if that is the direction he wants to build the club in that is a very positive move.

The bloke is answering a bunch of stuff on twitter right now. Making the right noises tbh

Problem with MM he had the right intensions but he ran DCFC the same way I run them on Football Manager and you cannot do that IRL.

Surely it is nothing to do with the EFL what price is agreed in a commercial transaction between two unconnected parties. The West Ham figure is no way the commercial rental figure. EFL and Maguire's time may be better looking at commerciality of transfer fees paid by connected clubs overseas. Hasnt he done enough harm? He could probably buy us with the money he has made from our misery. He can do one

Assuming Q put CK forward as PB to the EFL for tomorrow's board meeting, and Q's plans are approved (bearing in mind the goalposts for the EFL's Fit & Proper Persons test are pretty wide (corner flag to corner flag) having been ratified by the likes of Ridsdale), what do people think about the other leaked elements of CK's bid/demands?
(1) Take -15 now; start with clean slate next season (which breaks EFL rules on at least 3 fronts, i.e. deductions need to be before 4th Thursday in March; additional deductions applied following season if team would be relegated regardless; -15 is only applied at the end of the administration process, i.e. summer). Will CK back down on this demand or walk away again??
(2) Creditors won't be getting their 25% (hence the acceptance of the -15).  Not sure if HMRC is included in this, but if they don't get what they want, then the deal collapses.
(3) The stadium. If CK came back in following the Council's murmurings on buying and then renting out PP, then everyone knows that the Council do not move at speed, especially when it comes to public money. This could take a long time, and another excuse to walk?

Classic misdirection, to throw us off the scent.
5.00 pm - Derbyshire Life carry an exclusive interview with Hollywood star George Clooney, with a passing mention of a past co stars love for the Rams.
5.05 pm - Someone at the DET scrapes the interview, and condenses it into a DET tweet confirming George as a diehard fan.
5.20 pm - Quantuma open the final bid envelopes, and are stunned by the identities of the latest entrants into the takeover race.
6.00 pm - Someone posts a link to the article on this forum.
6.05 pm - The Sun news desk reads this forum, asks an intern to do some digging, and asks them to write up a story after they've listened to George's voicemail.
7.00pm - After a private investigator hacks into the Mickleover Court Hotel booking system, they see that the Gary Teale, Ikechi Anya and Derek Hales suites have been block booked by the same LA Based travel agent, along with the Giles Barnes conference room for tomorrow.
10.00pm - The Sun runs with its Hollywood Consortium story, while Pride Park is turned into the Nespresso Bowl overnight.
 
 

The whole Ebosele debacle is shocking and seems to be completely counterproductive in supporting the admin process... losing such a talented player for free when he could have been locked down to a contract and potentially sold to support the financing of the club's debts is madness. Another EFL rooster up in my eyes - how can they not see this kind of double punishment only serves to push the club further into oblivion.
The other terrible thing with Ebosele is that the English game is losing another fantastic young talent to foreign leagues... yes Festy is Irish, but surely we want to retain such talent to play in the EPL/EFL as he's the kind of players fans pay money to watch...

The whole Ebosele debacle is shocking and seems to be completely counterproductive in supporting the admin process... losing such a talented player for free when he could have been locked down to a contract and potentially sold to support the financing of the club's debts is madness. Another EFL rooster up in my eyes - how can they not see this kind of double punishment only serves to push the club further into oblivion.
The other terrible thing with Ebosele is that the English game is losing another fantastic young talent to foreign leagues... yes Festy is Irish, but surely we want to retain such talent to play in the EPL/EFL as he's the kind of players fans pay money to watch...

The whole Ebosele debacle is shocking and seems to be completely counterproductive in supporting the admin process... losing such a talented player for free when he could have been locked down to a contract and potentially sold to support the financing of the club's debts is madness. Another EFL rooster up in my eyes - how can they not see this kind of double punishment only serves to push the club further into oblivion.
The other terrible thing with Ebosele is that the English game is losing another fantastic young talent to foreign leagues... yes Festy is Irish, but surely we want to retain such talent to play in the EPL/EFL as he's the kind of players fans pay money to watch...

The whole Ebosele debacle is shocking and seems to be completely counterproductive in supporting the admin process... losing such a talented player for free when he could have been locked down to a contract and potentially sold to support the financing of the club's debts is madness. Another EFL rooster up in my eyes - how can they not see this kind of double punishment only serves to push the club further into oblivion.
The other terrible thing with Ebosele is that the English game is losing another fantastic young talent to foreign leagues... yes Festy is Irish, but surely we want to retain such talent to play in the EPL/EFL as he's the kind of players fans pay money to watch...

Mel can rot in hell, and yes you can remove my post if it makes you feel better.
Just can’t hold it back

He sure did have a good eye for talent, who remembers Junior.

I think its telling that the news of the Binnies pulling out has come from the Binnies and not from Quantuma. A bit odd they went straight to the BBC to say they 'lost'... similar to Kirchner and his pram toy throws out episode we saw on Twitter. It could potentially be a negotiating tactic to bring other bids down and closer to what the Binnies want to offer so we'll see if they end up coming back in at a later date, as is possible with Kirchner too.
It seems like a blow to lose a bidder, but I'd be shocked if Quantuma rejected the bid without other credible offers on the table. Agree that we could be looking at other mystery bidders, and its taking time for Quantuma to review their bids as they're brand new hence the delay. 
It does concern me that the bid was rejected with a small amount seemingly set aside for the stadium - sounds like Mel has named his price and its not 0 when it absolutely should be.

I think its telling that the news of the Binnies pulling out has come from the Binnies and not from Quantuma. A bit odd they went straight to the BBC to say they 'lost'... similar to Kirchner and his pram toy throws out episode we saw on Twitter. It could potentially be a negotiating tactic to bring other bids down and closer to what the Binnies want to offer so we'll see if they end up coming back in at a later date, as is possible with Kirchner too.
It seems like a blow to lose a bidder, but I'd be shocked if Quantuma rejected the bid without other credible offers on the table. Agree that we could be looking at other mystery bidders, and its taking time for Quantuma to review their bids as they're brand new hence the delay. 
It does concern me that the bid was rejected with a small amount seemingly set aside for the stadium - sounds like Mel has named his price and its not 0 when it absolutely should be.

I think its telling that the news of the Binnies pulling out has come from the Binnies and not from Quantuma. A bit odd they went straight to the BBC to say they 'lost'... similar to Kirchner and his pram toy throws out episode we saw on Twitter. It could potentially be a negotiating tactic to bring other bids down and closer to what the Binnies want to offer so we'll see if they end up coming back in at a later date, as is possible with Kirchner too.
It seems like a blow to lose a bidder, but I'd be shocked if Quantuma rejected the bid without other credible offers on the table. Agree that we could be looking at other mystery bidders, and its taking time for Quantuma to review their bids as they're brand new hence the delay. 
It does concern me that the bid was rejected with a small amount seemingly set aside for the stadium - sounds like Mel has named his price and its not 0 when it absolutely should be.

I wish I could talk to them and then I would ask who are the bidders and if you wont announce pd I will do it for you.

I love them chip eaters ???

I was deeply cynical of the process by which Rooney took over from Cocu and doubtful of his actual coaching ability. 
But he has more than earned our gratitude and respect for his efforts this season. 
I'd be very happy if the current coaching team were to remain next season. 

I'm assuming hard drugs?

I'm interested to know why you think this? 

I'm interested to know why you think this? 

I'm interested to know why you think this? 

A good 5 minute viewing ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/60627062