David

29 minutes ago, Oldben said:

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-talking-points-stevenage-9107538

Disappointed. Let's hope its only a loan till the end of the season. If promoted he'd be a very expensive and probably not used substitute

He’s a free agent, and with Collins out he would be a guaranteed starter.

I'm glad you posted that video, I had no idea what a back heel pass was.

Never in doubt. Strikers are overrated.

We will be winners today regardless of the score.

Having this bloke only ever sat in the opposition dugout and not the home team at Pride Park is a win. 

1 minute ago, Stive Pesley said:

https://mashable.com/article/x-twitter-elon-musk-bots-fake-traffic

An unprecedented 75% of twitter traffic found to be fake bots during the superbowl

Yet twitter were crowing about how many impressions they got

True to form, sounds like Musk is happy to artificially inflate his numbers to impress investors

"Solved the bot problem" my arse 

Another article to back this up

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/15/x-paid-post-promotion-advertising

Worth also looking into the Mr Beast and Elon Musk interaction which subsequently led to a quarter of a million dollar payout on the video he posted. 

His site, can do what he likes. I miss Twitter.

Just now, Chester40 said:

I love that interview tbh.

So much sense spoken by Warne.

Made a good point to Dom about the effect of criticism and more importantly he avoids the obvious/easy answer in claiming that he knew things would turn.... and admitting he/you don't.  You do what you can and see how it goes and hope it all comes good.

Disregarding the style of football,  I struggle to see how anyone can find fault with his attitude towards management here.

I liked it as well, decided against sharing it in the Warne topic though, just didn't seem worth it.

Comes across as really open and honest, I really find it hard not to like the bloke on a personal level from all the content we're given to base our opinions on. Just one of those people I think would be good to have a pint with and get things off your chest to. 

5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Weston's more of a 10 who can also play out wide. If he is to play upfront, he would need to be partnered up with a more traditional 9... which doesn't exactly solve our problem.

He's got 2 legs though

1 minute ago, TomTom92 said:

But they aren’t strikers.

They may well do a job for us, I’ll be happy if they do but it just all seems unnecessary and a bit amateur to even be in this position.

But I’ve speculated enough I think about whether we’re doing the right thing or not so I’ll see how we get on today.

To be fair, these are Barkhuizen's games/positions played over his career. Playing him up top wouldn't be the same as Dean Moxey. 

I’ve had a think about this, opened myself up to the counter arguments and I’ve come to the conclusion I am still correct.

It’s a nonsense stat.

However I would concede that rebranding it as chances created cC, or even opportunities, I would have less issues with it.

This idea that a player is in this position on the pitch, he’s “expected” to score is as I say nonsense and disrespectful to defenders and keepers.

Now if you’re telling me, that having a player in this position on the pitch has a chance/opportunity to take a shot and score, absolutely I can buy into that.

Look at a penalty, dead ball situation with a 1 on 1, great chance/opportunity to score, however I watched Mbappe have a penalty save the other day. Didn’t take it. That’s football.

The X is terrible branding, as it is for the rebranding of Twitter. 

Also, as a stat, you shouldn’t have variations depending on what website you’re reading.

1 minute ago, Tamworthram said:

Why? Surely it would still leave Stevenage pondering for today’s game?

Don’t ask me questions like that as it puts me on the ropes unable to answer, doesn’t fit the positive news narrative I’m trying to push here.

Is anyone else leaning towards the idea that any injury Collins has, isn't that serious, could even be on the bench today with an injection ready to go if needed?

As a journalist going into a pre match press conference knowing the only fit senior striker was due in for a scan on his knee, knowing that, would that not be the first question you would ask?

Looking over on X, both Dom (Radio Derby) and Leigh (DET) have put nothing out there, the last thing said on the 15th is.....

29 hours later all we get is.....

If he's touch and go for today, would make sense to stay quiet on it, leave that doubt a question for Stevenage to ponder over in their pre match preparations. 

If it was serious in that we're expecting him to miss 3, 4, 6 weeks, no real point in delaying the news. 

I'd stick a cheeky fiver on him being sat on the bench today.

I think the idea that we need to sign a striker, anyone, literally anyone that passes the basic entry requirement of having 2 legs is a strange one.

It's strange as Warne is also getting hammered for letting Brown go out on loan.

We do have another young striker at the club, which the last time I counted has 2 legs, Tony Weston.

All about his ego.

https://www.businessinsider.com/musk-changed-twitter-algorithm-tweets-didnt-get-attention-book-2024-2?r=US&IR=T

Adding the Tweet for those that haven’t seen.

Think we should rule out Owen Bradley being on the windup immediately, not his style.

I’m sure he’s been told the club are not ruling anything out, it’s a knee. Bruise, sprain, twist, ligaments.

Best case a bruise, worst case ACL.

8 minutes ago, May Contain Nuts said:

1 basic rule for posting on this thread now and in future:

Foresight is unwelcome, and hindsight will be dismissed.

(Or is that 2 rules?)

Not a rule, you only have to come on here at 2pm to know how wildly unpredictable foresight can be.

Nothing inherently wrong with saying Warne won’t keep us up either if that’s the opinion, just feels a bit off when it’s put out there almost fact like and DC/SP are too stupid not to see it.

Something that isn’t taken into consideration whilst rubbing the crystal ball is momentum. We finish the remaining games unbeaten, and we have that nobody can beat us feeling going into the season that can be huge.

When Blackpool were promoted to the Premier League, it wasn’t a tactical masterclass, nor was it a squad full of ability. They had the belief and that squad mentality, as did we under Billy Davies.

We need to get promoted first and foremost. Before then, any talk of Championship stability or Premier League is premature.

Every single football club will have it’s own short and long term plans, not only that, managers will have their own career succession plan which won’t always be openly shared for obvious reasons.

Personally, as a fan, I don’t put much weight into these plans, they sound great, however only 3 teams go up, 3 go down each season. (4 in League 1). I just look for progress. Progress for me is League table pure and simple.

Others will have their own metrics, however ultimately the league table shows progress. We’ve made progress.

If we finish 3rd, lose in the play off final, it’s still progress. Although the bar has been raised for next season where if promotion isn’t achieved, would be difficult for Warne to continue.

On a side note, it can’t be forgotten what state this club was in just a couple years ago when Rooney left. We have made incredible progress.

History, attendances, facilities don’t count for much if you don’t have a team.

4 hours ago, sage said:

Not really. 

Some players you'd only sign in League One, some only in the Championship and some in both.

Perhaps just give us a list of topics we are allowed to discuss.

Yes really. 

It's not even March, we could go on to lose the next 10, slide down outside the top 6, Warne sacked and looking at an entirely different style of football. So much football to be played, contracts to be offered both at Derby and other clubs to even know where to start. 

Been just 2 weeks since the last window closed.

It's like watching toddlers on Christmas Day morning, ripping open a toy, looking at it for 30 seconds before scrambling for the next.

It's like the Mrs asking me tonight what would I like for dinner on the 7th March. 

Even Fabrizio Romano the celebrity ITK bloke on Twitter/X has taken a break from linking players to clubs, now focusing on injuries, stats and that to show he's still alive. 

Go for it though, knock yourself out writing lists of players if it makes you happy. 

How is it a joke of a scoreline? It's not a game of chances, it's a game of sticking the ball in the net. We did it, they didn't, their loss.

3 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

I was being facetious. But even Elon’s goal is more realistic than hoping the world’s leaders will ever come together and do something useful for humanity. We’re basically just waiting for crack pot billionaires to make ‘saving the world’ their latest project.

But of course a lot of them became crackpot billionaires by burning the world in the first place. So we might be waiting a while. 

I think it terms of realistic goals, both would be on par, along with myself bagging a date with Cheryl Cole. 

I'm with you on that he can spend his money how he likes, I see him as someone that has a lot of "nerd" in him and the money to attempt to bring science fiction to reality, fair play. 

Boys with toys on a much grander scale, his Boring company bringing out things like flamethrowers, all points towards that theory. 

4 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

At least Elon has set himself a realistic goal. 

Really? 12 years ago.

1 hour ago, David said:

@Birdyabroad as the topic creator, would you be happy for me to close this topic, moving forward with a topic simply called “Paul Warne”.

We’re seeing similar posts depending on the result in both. A singular place to discuss the manager under a neutral title. 

The same question will be asked in the alternative threads.

 

With the 2 alternative topic creators in agreement, I have decided to go ahead now anyway.

The Paul Warne "Out Out" and "Pro" topics have been locked in favour of a single place for discussions.

This is it.

I would ask members to refrain from opening any further topics with in/out or similar in the title and continue to post their opinions in here, regardless of result/league position.

I'll be the boring one and reply just as I would to B4.

Is this not a little too early and should we not wait until we know what division we are in next year?

The difference between building a Championship team and League 1 team are huge. The loan opportunities are vastly superior for the Premier League youth talent.

Not only that but we need to see what we have left in the cupboard before we go shopping. 

This is a perfect topic to bridge the gap between the end of the season and the Euros.