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The Scarlet Pimpernel

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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from TigerTedd in Relegation watch   
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to NG2Ram in Plucky Derby v Norwich Match Ratings   
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to Boycie in Rooney Out!   
    We were a couple of good saves away from beating the league leaders yesterday.  Not counting the over slightly hit through balls that were made too.
    I think Wayne will grow into this job next season, and hopefully the crowds will be back to help out.
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to Owen87ITK in Do Derby deserve to stay up?   
    Sorry David but you’re talking tosh here. 
    Of course we are Derby-focused, I don’t know why you’d expect anything other. 
    But given the feedback we get on our commentary and coverage generally from both people inside and outside the club, I’d say we get it about right.
    To answer your question, ultimately Derby will get what the deserve at the end of 46 games, and so will every other club in the division. 
     
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from Bubbles in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to angieram in El DerbyCo   
    Maybe so, but I honestly don't know anything about the guy, never heard of him or this Matt Southall he is mates with (I thought Southall was an ex- Everton goalie!) These days everyone is an amateur detective and a lot of what I see on twitter and here is a feeding frenzy of trying to find out every possible bad thing about him and condemn him for it.
    I don't think football is a democracy, no, in fact if I take a step back I think it is probably run by some people who are pretty corrupt. But I obviously don't care about that enough to boycott it any more than I don't care enough to stop buying stuff off Amazon or watching Sky Sports. So I suck it up and generally keep my mouth shut on this side of the game.
    I don't think the comparison with politicians works well. Politicians are publicly elected officials placed there to represent us, but football club owners? No they are the guys with the money and/or the ambition. Football clubs are private companies accountable to shareholders not to fans, who at best are the ever-woolley "stakeholders". 
    Again, I return to the statement that if you find that morally unacceptable, then walk away from it.
    Or at least wait until there is something to be vocal about. There really isn't yet, is there? 
    You may all be proved right in the long or even the short term, but at least give the guy a chance.
    I am not sure the football club owner exists that would meet the exacting standards of some of our fans.
     
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to angieram in El DerbyCo   
    Exactly this. There are no guarantees in football and for every ten investors, only two are "succesful" - if success is measured on a scale of only promotion is good enough.
    The other eight aren't all crooks or were rubbish. They just tried and failed. 
    Overall the last seven years have been more enjoyable on the pitch than they haven't and I like others am just sad that it didn't work out for Mel. Have met him a few times I feel he is a decent guy who only ever wanted the best for this club.
    There is no magic formula for success. I have just rewatched the review of the 13/14 season (I know!)
    Leeds were in the High Court, look where they are now. Wigan, alternatively, were riding high. Look how divergent their future paths have been.
    There's nothing guaranteed in football but we journey with hope, that's what we enjoy. 
    For those of you that just enjoy wallowing in the misery, this may well have been your season, but beware, things might get better! 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from archram in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to David in El DerbyCo   
    Football club ownership is a lose/lose situation, doesn’t matter what they do, you’ve done it wrong.
    They will be asked to sit in the corner, be quiet, just sign the cheques, but wait, why are they so quiet, we demand answers.
    Cut back spending, be sensible, wait a minute we still want that £10m striker and £5m defender, and a £8m keeper....oh and don’t forget that £7m midfielder....but don’t you dare take us close to that FFP limit, no football club should be losing money.
    Bored now, we need a new owner, anyone just get rid...wait not him, we don’t want him Jesus, but get rid asap.
    Hold on, why’s this guy wanting to buy a second tier football club, I smell something fishy, what’s his intentions, why us, why not one of those football clubs that actually make money like erm...errrrrm....
    Honestly, I could be the richest man in the world, sat in trillions in the bank account and I would never touch a football club, even Derby. 
    I could turn us into the next Man City and some would still have something to complain about, winning leagues, competing in Europe but yeah that David bloke what a @#%! for killing the atmosphere and turning us into a tourist fan club, all those fake fans over in Asia. I want to see us lose games, can’t remember the last time I saw us get a classic Derby tonking.
    Now imagine football clubs owned by football fans, oh my, a group of Newcastle fans are looking to buy a stake in their club. Can already see the fall out there, desperate to get rid of Ashley they donate all they can, then Ant and Dec disagree over firing the manager, Cheryl Cole storms off wanting her £5.68 back as she thought one of the fans would be appointed manager.
    Would not touch with a barge pole.
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to ollycutts1982 in El DerbyCo   
    I really can’t weigh up some fans. In the Abu Derby County thread there was some much made of the silence and fan’s demanding information. Alonso does 2 interviews which are quite frank and open and folk still aren’t happy 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to Needlesh in El DerbyCo   
    I'm a tired middle aged man. I don't have reserves of rage to bring to bear on topics around what might go wrong, or what should have been done. I'm sad that Mel is walking away, sad for us and for him, that the effort in sweat and treasure he's put in to getting us promoted never worked out. Blame him if you want, but few of us could or would have done better. He deserved to sit in the executive box at Old Trafford and The Emirates and watch our team mix it with the best again. I'll always respect him and wish him well.
    The new guy is a clean slate, a fresh start. We have a new season over the horizon and if we can just win a couple more games and stay up, positives in the academy and the managers office and hope for the future.
    Good luck to him, and I hope the takeover and the relegation battle conclude successfully in this next couple of weeks.
    Up the Rams. It's all about the hope.
     
     
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to DCFC1388 in El DerbyCo   
    I think people who just see Rob Dorsetts tweets will think this a young rich lad boasting but actually listening/reading to the interview he comes across quite level headed and ambitious, not boastful.
    He hasnt spoken out about the deal itself which is what the statement was about, all he has done is 2 interviews over here where he has outlined his plans which im sure most fans wanted to hear/know. Sounds like the deal is pretty much done anyway.
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from Derby4Me in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from Carnero in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from r_wilcockson in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from desirelines in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from Tamworthram in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel got a reaction from DazzaRam in El DerbyCo   
    What's he done wrong already? Is it speaking out excitedly? It may end badly it may be great. Who knows...anyway carry on with the misery as usual. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to jono in El DerbyCo   
    I am merely defending Mel when there is to my mind a certain tone from some posters that suggest he has been a bad owner.
    considering the nature of this competition, the structure of the industry and what he has tried to do over the last 5 or so years then I dispute that in the strongest terms and will keep doing so. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to jono in El DerbyCo   
    You talked about trust. The truth is that the football industry is messy, tough, complicated and very difficult particularly in the 2nd and 3rd tiers. If you want to look at a ratio of money spent to success achieved them maybe Mel didn’t do very well compared to some of his peers, but just remember this, Wigan went bust, Wednesday got a 10 point deduction, Luton had a scandal, Bolton all but collapsed. 
     
    During Mels tenure ...
    ticket prices were stable or reasonable throughout his time. 
    the club (like a most champ clubs )  lost money Mel underwrote those losses. 
    The academy was developed significantly and positively 
    Managers came and went .. Mel backed them and their efforts - good and bad
    When the FFP hit the fan Mel defended the club, won and paid the price by buying the stadium which is virtually worthless without DCFC as an entity. Something he cemented after the Americans wanted out 
    What exactly do you mean by trust ? .. you don’t trust him to win the league ? or because a financial consortium didn’t do what they promised to do ? or Cocu didn’t turn our journeymen into a Championship Barca  ? Pathetic logic
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to jono in El DerbyCo   
    Quite common in most clubs. The candidates all had suitable CV’s ... None of us were fundamentally opposed to any of the appointments at the time. We might have had a dislike of either Pearson’s 1970’s PE teacher mode or the razzmatazz of Lampard but they were all typical of football. We have had every variety with the exception of trying to recruit the sort of tough guy agricultural manager with a “proven record” (although Pearson might fit that bill) . where everyone would have moaned about the lack of ambition.
    The transfer policy “errors” started with Bryson and Hughes being injured in the same match which lead to panic buying at inflated prices. At the time, these were seen as bold, supportive and positive moves. Your are eating hindsight by the KFC family bucket load.
    The financial state of the club ? .. Mel filled it with money .. some spent well, some badly .. We haven’t had a fiscal mismanagement situation or anything “taken” from the club by Mel. We got in a mess on FFP and Mel coughed up by buying the stadium and paying the club money for it.
    Sam Rush ? Is Mel really responsible for another man’s ethics ? ( or lack of them ? ) 
    The fiasco ? .. Someone broke their pledges or didn’t meet their obligations .. it wasn’t Mel. Maybe Mel shouldn’t  have trusted them but good business and life is defined by trust. You have to start somewhere. Has anyone thought about Mel here ? He has obviously had some serious health issues yet he hasn’t flinched from being a DCFC man 
    yes, for sure, be sceptical or wary of new owners, we all are, we care about our club, but Mel has been a straight shooter from day one. Some of the things he’s done or wanted to do didn’t work out but he is trustworthy beyond doubt . Now maybe those he has trusted are sharks .. but that’s a different story. 
     
    I cannot believe how you have such a judgmental attitude to a guy who has given his best efforts and a shed load of money to this club. Your judgement is littered with an astounding lack of logical analysis. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to NottsRammy in El DerbyCo   
    I really dont understand all the negativity at all . This to me seems like a dream deal and I for one am pretty excited about it . It seems like some Derby fans are unable to let go if being wellllllll down right bloody miserable and think of the likes of Norwich and Bournemouth and brentford as big clubs . This could well be the chance of bringing in someone young full of cockiness and bouncing us up to the premier where we do actually belong . I remember another young cocky bloke his name was Brian clough .
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to Ellafella in Rooney’s Style of Play/Identity   
    I totally understand where WR is coming from. I suspect pre-season will enable Wazza to stamp his fully embossed mark on Derby County and I look forward to that. 
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    The Scarlet Pimpernel reacted to BramcoteRam84 in El DerbyCo   
    Which is what we are doing now. But fans will moan about that when they have endure mid table mediocrity (as an aspiration). Remember the Nigel Clough years and protests outside the ground at GSE?! And they ran the club responsibly.
    Mel tried to get us out of this league. He’s stood by the club bankrolling it and not walked away until a buyer is in place. He made some big mistakes early on with signings and managerial appointments that has ultimately cost him and us down the line - not helped by ridiculous FFP rules. But he’s done it out of a need of trying to compete with clubs with parachute payments. Right intentions always, yes he’s made some mistakes, yes he’s not immune from criticism but some of the flak he gets is unjustified. 
     
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