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    mice_elf got a reaction from Angry Ram in £10m FFP Bill   
    Unless my eyes deceive me, according to that Deloitte Report ( Chart 16 on Page 27), 
    £140 million of that total Championship Club Debt of £1.8 billion was Derby County's.
    The only Clubs with bigger Net Debt, according to Deloitte, were Newcastle/Brighton/Fulham, 
    and all three of those Teams are now in the Premier League. The fifth biggest Net Debtors,
    according to Deloitte, were Cardiff, and they too are now in the Premier League. 
    So the financial gamble taken by Newcastle/Brighton/Fulham/Cardiff paid off for them, having
    reached the Promised Land of the Premier League. Mel's gamble has not yet paid off.
    Now before you start going off on one again, I am not saying that Derby County's Net Debt in 2017
    was £140 million, I am merely pointing out that the Deloitte Report claims that to be the case.
    Presumably Deloitte have failed to appreciate the subtle financial intricacies of the DCFC/Sevco/
    Mel Morris set-up that you have so painstakingly detailed to this Forum. 
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    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from rcarso1 in Darren Bent - joined Burton on loan   
    I'll see your Mikkel Beck and raise you a Bjorn Otto Bragstad :-
    Signed for 3 million Euro in July 2000 on the back of some decent performances 
    for Norway at Euro 2000. Left on a Free Transfer in January 2003 after just 12
    appearances. Not since the days of Mick Coop have I seen a defender so inept.
    Mikkel Beck cost £630k from Middlesborough in July 1999, and left for £315k a year
    later in July 2000 (source Transfermarkt) having scored 2 goals in 18 Premier League
    appearances, so at least he wasn't a complete write-off.
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Mr Giggles in Chris Martin - joined Reading on loan until the end of the season   
    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chris-martin-fulham-sunderland-derby-1118071
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Cam the Ram in Johnny Russell - Will he sign a new contract?   
    Here you go :-
    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/george-thorne-johnny-russell-contracts-1057637
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
  12. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Carnero in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    You are 40 goals out on your CJ total - he has 75 Championship goals in total.
    You've used Whoscored History stats, but they only go back to season 2009/10, so you have 
    18 goals for Norwich 2014/15, 16 goals for Norwich 2016/17 and 1 goal for Norwich 2017/18
    which does indeed add up to the 35 you've quoted.
    However, you need to add on 6 goals for Cardiff 2004/5, 18 goals for Cardiff 2005/6, 7 goals for Brum 2006/7,
    and 9 goals for Brum 2008/9 - so that's another 40 goals to add to your original 35 quote = 75 Championship goals in total.
    On a quick check you are 33 goals short on Dave Nugent's total as well, with 33 goals for Preston between Jan. 2005 to July 2007.
    About 32 goals short for Chris Martin as well, for Norwich and Crystal Palace between 2006-2012, which don't show on Whoscored History.
    Over 40 goals short for Darren Bent as well, for Ipswich between 2002-2005.
    So your grand total for our 6 Central forwards should be approx. 380, rather than the 235 you've quoted from the Whoscored stats.
    Note that the Championship wasn't founded until 2004, so some of Bent's goals for Ipswich weren't strictly scored in the Championship
    but were in the old second-tier First Division. The Premier League was formed in 1992, and the English second-tier League was then called the First Division from 1992 until the formation of the Championship in 2004, at which point the English third-tier League then assumed the title of the First Division.
    Oh for the good old days when the Football League consisted of Division 1 , Division 2 , Division 3 and Division 4.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
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    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  17. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  18. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  19. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  20. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  21. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  22. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  23. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
  24. Like
    mice_elf got a reaction from Aries Sun in Cameron Jerome - Signed 18 month deal   
    A lot of negativity about the Jerome signing on here.
    Maybe some can't forgive him for inflicting the first Home defeat for Derby during the "Season of Shame" :-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8uuAYsLYFw
    Not good enough for us, some say. Well he's played in 3 Championship promotion sides, and spent half his career
    playing in the Premier League (Birmingham/Stoke/Crystal Palace/Norwich). 
    Kevin Phillips played alongside him at Birmingham City for a few seasons (between 2008 to 2011), so I think his
    judgement on Jerome's ability/suitability carries a bit more weight than anyone else's views on this Forum.
     
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    mice_elf reacted to The Scarlet Pimpernel in 'We had the resilience to see the game out'   
    Roy, you have an agenda against Rowett. You and about four others predominately only pipe up when you perceive a whiff of something to moan about. You are of course entitled to write what you want but it is quite obvious. 
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