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Van der MoodHoover

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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to reverendo de duivel in The Politics Thread 2020   
    A toilet cubicle isn't much different from a confession booth either.
    You go in both in the hope you'll come out lighter, having unburdened yourself.
    Although in the church, the priest would probably offer to help you. They're kind like that.
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in The Politics Thread 2020   
    I'm an old git and I don't know what all these new acronyms or derogatory terms mean...…..that thread has passed me by on that front.
    For example the other day I nodded off and people started throwing "woke" at each other. I couldn't work it out as I thought you must have woke in order to be posting...…...
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from SchtivePesley in The Politics Thread 2020   
    The questioning is around whether the policy is refined enough or too "blunt" as an instrument. Sounds like your Polish lad wouldn't be admitted under these new rules and my limited understanding is that what the salary increases to is irrelevant - if it isn't above the minimum on Day 1 then tough.
    So it sounds quite blunt IF that's a correct interpretation. It's nothing about left/right more about applying some critical thinking to what is being pushed as a flagship policy.
    I'm not sure I would have regarded your profession as unskilled either - but again, I don't know if there is a definition for the particular purpose of immigration policy.
     
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to DarkFruitsRam7 in The Politics Thread 2020   
    Just to clarify, the reason I'm not a WASP (presuming you're on about the discussion in the Max Lowe thread) is because I'm technically a (non-practising) Catholic! As you can imagine, I've received absolutely no discrimination in my life. Apart from, perhaps, Catholics themselves who disapprove of certain solo practices!
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in The Politics Thread 2020   
    and theres another point, me old Fruit of non-specific ethnicity......do well in your course and I reckon theres a job for you as AG as you come across as far more measured and no less experienced than the current one!😉
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in The Politics Thread 2020   
    Sounds true to form.
    That Suella Braverman is another one who appears to have been put in post on the basis she said a couple of things Boris liked. Her actual legal experience is very thin indeed. 
    Tell you what, Boris needs some diversity of intelligence in his cabinet cos they're all coming across as being as thick as pooe at the moment......🤣
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to jono in Confronting Holocaust denial   
    History is so so important ! As I get older and see news items from time to time .. you become able to recognise patterns and get a sense that if we don’t this right then it’s going to end badly because something similar has happened before. 
    i think our black Swann is a huge thing. It’s a global shift, you can’t attribute it to one party or another It isn’t political,in a left/right sense, it’s just history, shift of power and  evolving events. The old west 50/100 years ago which was so wealthy (on Ill gotten gains perhaps ) started being responsible,  just, sophisticated and caring. Then other parts of the world caught up financially and technologically, they got their stuff back, they learned other stuff, made their own way and we ran out of money to pay for the decency we have all come to expect. No manufacturing, automation, no cheap resources, competition and growing populations. 
     
    We live in interesting times. With issues that are more complex and global than our 1950/60 ancestors but more importantly are from a different relative power and position perspective 
     
    it’s a hairy time at the moment .. and in times like these evil lurks. Extremes get a voice they should not have. 
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in Confronting Holocaust denial   
    Indeed yes, the capitulation of Germany at the end of WW1 was blamed on "the enemy within" which in Hitlers mind meant Jews, Communists and anyone weak-minded enough to be considered "defeatist".
    Those years essentially developed  his personal antisemitism, but it could have remained personal fringe ravings.
    What is the true Black Swan event is that Nazi'ism COULD have remained a lunatic fringe party had there not been a banking crisis in the early 1930's. 2 of the 4 "high street" german banks failed - and were not state bailed out - so they worsened an economic recession into the Great Depression. One of these banks - Danatbank - had a Jewish head.
    So Hitler was able to build a narrative that Jewish bankers were impoverishing German businessmen. And people believed him and that narrative.
    He was a truly evil man but it could an extreme combination of unlikely events to give him the means.
    We should be careful to learn from history as we have had arguably a Black Swan economic event of our own......let us fervently hope that nothing goes so badly wrong we start looking for people to blame...... 
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from Van Cone De Head in Confronting Holocaust denial   
    So you're not really John Cone......more accuratley Yann Coneberg? 😂
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from jono in Confronting Holocaust denial   
    Indeed yes, the capitulation of Germany at the end of WW1 was blamed on "the enemy within" which in Hitlers mind meant Jews, Communists and anyone weak-minded enough to be considered "defeatist".
    Those years essentially developed  his personal antisemitism, but it could have remained personal fringe ravings.
    What is the true Black Swan event is that Nazi'ism COULD have remained a lunatic fringe party had there not been a banking crisis in the early 1930's. 2 of the 4 "high street" german banks failed - and were not state bailed out - so they worsened an economic recession into the Great Depression. One of these banks - Danatbank - had a Jewish head.
    So Hitler was able to build a narrative that Jewish bankers were impoverishing German businessmen. And people believed him and that narrative.
    He was a truly evil man but it could an extreme combination of unlikely events to give him the means.
    We should be careful to learn from history as we have had arguably a Black Swan economic event of our own......let us fervently hope that nothing goes so badly wrong we start looking for people to blame...... 
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to Mucker1884 in Craig Ramage as a player   
    No, the actual Blue Peter... The TV programme.  He stood on Noakesy's foot, then shat all over the floor.
     
    Oh wait... no... that was a baby elephant! 
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to BaaLocks in The Politics Thread 2020   
    Absolutely - one that is built on one knee jerk reaction after another, bereft of a PM who can even be bothered to care to govern and one guided by back seat drivers like Cummings with what seems like an implicitt admission of zero care for all but their own.
    As a vocal objector to Brexit (that word we can't apparently speak of any more in case people might actually realise it isn't quite over ready) I do have to admit that immigration policy was one place where we had a chance to stamp some competitive advantage on our economy. Being able to judge EU and non-EU migrants under the same system potentially gives us a great chance to level the playing field and make the opportunity truly equal to all.
    But they've FUBAR'ed it in the first pass by making it about elitism, earned salary and qualifications rather than incremental value that the person can bring. A hospital cleaner from Ghana brings value to this country in that he / she is prepared to do the job for a salary that others would not, even the most leftie of economists would have to admit that. But by taking that, and the other endless jobs in hospitality, retail, facilities management, healthcare and other industries, away without a clue how they will be replaced and they've just shown they have not got one single clue what they are on about.
    As for all these immigrants, I thought they were coming here living off benefits? Now Priti says actually that it's the 'economically inactive' that will need to step up and do the jobs that these immigrants will no longer be allowed to undertake. Listen to that for a minute, because the message is crystal clear, they're sending the immigrants back and telling us to mop the floors and pick the fruit. This really should be the point at which anyone who voted for Brexit starts to realise you've been well and truly conned.
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to WhiteHorseRam in The Politics Thread 2020   
    That's what this thread is all about! C'mon get with the program.
     
    That and the strange sexual tension between @SchtivePesley and @G STAR RAM , which holds it all together.
     
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2020   
    But apart from taking petty pot-shots at each other, Here's are some FT excerpts from an interview given by the supremely intelligent and absolutely ravishing Priti Patel this morning on 5-live...
    Speaking on Radio 5 Live on Wednesday, Ms Patel dismissed concerns about social care and insisted that many providers would be able to recruit staff through the planned new skilled migration route. 
    “It’s important to reflect there are over 8m people who are economically inactive, so it’s important that businesses in [the affected] sectors engage with them,” she said.
    When her interviewer pointed out that 2.2m of the inactive were students, another 1.9m were looking after families and 2.1m were long-term sick, Ms Patel said: “If we invest in people and also if we put [in] the right investment in terms of new technology and skills, more people would be able to work in many sectors.” 
    I find this troubling on a couple of levels.....
    1. It seems to be introducing a whole new method into the way UK thinks about its labour market. We had no end of trumpeting of "the number of people in work" as a justification of the ruling party's economic prowess. Now we have a number dropped out of the ether without context or explanation.
    2. The term itself is pejorative and extremely harsh, implying some underclass of feckless wasters just awaiting that call from the local cabbage grower/old folks home.
    3. It's Priti Patel who to my mind is as risible as Diane Abbott, but for different reasons.
    What a 3rd rate cabinet we have - but then it doesn't matter as presumably the Home Office will itself be in Boris' sights for a future land grab?
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to Mucker1884 in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    This way, my friend...

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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in The Politics Thread 2020   
    ....in your opinion......😜
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to uttoxram75 in The Politics Thread 2020   
    I think the anti-establishment stuff is really more about watering down corporate regulations, transparency and tax avoidance schemes. Its virtually impossible to make a case for doing those things so its dressed up as anti establishment stuff.
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Politics Thread 2020   
    I've heard this said, but cannot find evidence of any thinking that might be termed "left wing" being directly attributed to him.
    By his recent comments and actions he appears more "anti-establishment " if anything.
    Where I am suspicions is that what some may see as "socially driven policies" are essentially a power play that happens to be convenient for Johnson at present. 
    If, for example, policies being pursued resulted in any threat to the Tories southern heartlands I would fully expect furious back-pedalling and u-turns aplenty. Essentially I believe this to be a party that is about pure power taking full advantage of opposition in complete disarray,  rather than anything ideological. 
    Could be wrong of course. But I shall simply retreat and suck on my cut price avocados with what remain of my teeth that I can't get fixed on the NHS.....🤣
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    If you can't make reference to some physical differences how do you describe anyone accurately?
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to Gaspode in Keogh Sacked   
    erm - don't mean to be a killjoy here, but it was a joke........
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Keogh Sacked   
    Ah....but this is where the hypothesis breaks down, because the club don't own the stadium any more in any case they sold it to er......oh........hang on......who was that bloke?
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Summer 2020 transfer window   
    Now now......the isle of wight may not be abroad, but it is in a different time zone.
    1957 to be precise 🤣
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from IslandExile in Summer 2020 transfer window   
    Now now......the isle of wight may not be abroad, but it is in a different time zone.
    1957 to be precise 🤣
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    Van der MoodHoover reacted to ThePrisoner in Max Lowe Racial Stereotyping   
    Be careful, this might snowball...
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    Van der MoodHoover got a reaction from archram in Summer 2020 transfer window   
    Now now......the isle of wight may not be abroad, but it is in a different time zone.
    1957 to be precise 🤣
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