samtheram83

There is a feeling amongst most fans we have been unjustly treated by the EFL and rightly so there is lots of evidence to show we have been treated disproportionately, particularly with regard to the barriers placed in the way on exiting administration with the way Boro and Wycombe claims have been handled, and to a lesser degree the P&S where while we were retrospectively challenged and punished due to the EFL facilitating a vendetta from a particular club, it doesn’t escape the fact we moved large amount of amortisation and sold the stadium to get around FFP rules. On re-stating the accounts we were over spending limits in several years enough for a 17 point deduction under the rules, some Alleviation was applied for being retrospectively punished and potential we would’ve made different business decisions and the punishment was reduced to 9, at least that will be the EFLs argument and personally while annoying we’ve been pursued retrospectively due to peer pressure from other clubs (ironically with parachute payments at the time) and while we should question the influence certain clubs have on the EFL board, we should have been punished and 9 points is about right under the rules.
 
The Narrative from most fans of other clubs is this Derby being victim here is nauseous, we dont have any sympathy and we’re justifying the actions of Mel which weren’t in the spirit of the game. We’ve won fans with how the team have gone about things and the amazing backing in recent games, and many are appalled at the way the EFL has handled our administration which should be our main beef, we won’t convince anyone on the FFP argument.
That all being said, all we want is fairness. We should’ve been punished, but then so should Boro for selling off tax, so should Watford and Forest for transfer dealing between clubs it owns. None of that is in the spirit of the game either. Stoke shouldn’t be allowed to write off a load of costs due to Covid, if the league have now got together to apply some alleviations because a chunk of clubs will fail FFP then those same alleviation’s should be applied to our points deduction and we should get 1-2 points back based on the numbers shared by GOC. If this doesn’t happen then this once again smacks of inconsistency from the EFL, and further evidence of the mob rule existing in the EFL that needs an independent regulator to stamp out.
 

No VAR in the championship, even the POs AFAIK, so Jags’ old man can slap away with impunity….?

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

Has anyone mentioned that the accord might have been something along the lines of…
Mel “look steve, I understand your frustrations with the way I ran Derby County. I was trying to find loop holes and get round the regulations of the EFL who you know as well as I do are incompetent to the highest level. We’re both supporters of our club and both savvy business men. You’d probably have done the same right? Why not lay off the club, I’ve gone, it wants to move forward.”
Gibson “All fair points Mel, and yes, I am a savvy business man, thanks for noticing! But my issue is I have to find fault somewhere for my teams inability to get promoted with all of those parachute payments! I’ve already blamed Karanka, Pulis and Warnock, I can’t blame myself!
Mel “Well Steve, I’m not incompetent and your not incompetent. Who is incompetent?”
Steve “…..”
Mel “The EFL Steve, the answer is the EFL”
Steve “oooooooooh! Riiiiiiiiiight…. Not sure I follow Mel”
Mel “We go after the EFL together Steve, me and you! Whata ya say buddy??”
Steve “your my hero Mel!”
Mel “I know Steve, I know. Why don’t we do something about that Barnet, you can look just like me!”
*sound of sheep clippers*
 
Just a thought while I was bored waiting for the game to start.

They were deducted 25 points after going into administration, leaving them 20 points adrift at the bottom of the table. 
They finished 6th, 24 points ahead of 9th and 10th.
Their joint second top goalscorer with 8 goals?
This man.

Quick question - do you always carry a printer to your local? 

Sue them for £45 million!

MARTIN SAMUEL: Derby are on the brink of extinction and had 21 points deducted - isn’t that enough now? Middlesbrough and Wycombe lawsuits are based on playing fantasy football.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10424221/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Middlesbrough-Wycombes-lawsuits-Derby-based-fantasy-seasons.html

I’ve interviewed Richard Stearman today.
 
Wayne press conference is tomorrow. Makes sense this week, given how quickly things are changing. 

This was supposed to be where people just post the facts of things happening with no discussion!!!!!!!!!!
eg Colin Murray show tonight at 11 thats it
its this sort of indiscipline that got us here!!!!! 

To be honest, I’m surprised the Belgian FA are really that bothered. What’s he done? Slightly better than Erickson and capello with our “golden generation”. But really considering the quality and depth they have he should have won something.
Come on Belgian FA, let him go to Everton. He’s got a point to prove there. Done bugger all for you!

What is a podcast? 

I would rather die

Nice interior?

Not to be the one to defend the EFL on here but would it not be down to the FA that we had to play that game as it’s their competition, not the EFL’s?
I don’t know the situation fully, just guessing.
Anyway, glad some of the lads playing that day are coming through in to the first team!

Smooth on the inside, crunchy on the outside?

Not to be the one to defend the EFL on here but would it not be down to the FA that we had to play that game as it’s their competition, not the EFL’s?
I don’t know the situation fully, just guessing.
Anyway, glad some of the lads playing that day are coming through in to the first team!

Not to be the one to defend the EFL on here but would it not be down to the FA that we had to play that game as it’s their competition, not the EFL’s?
I don’t know the situation fully, just guessing.
Anyway, glad some of the lads playing that day are coming through in to the first team!

When you step on a piece of Lego!

I’m Phil Jagielka and I claim your £5.

My cracked mobile screen will serve as a reminder of the game. Took a while to realise I had been stamping on it after the winner went in!