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    Spanish got a reaction from Ken Tram in Keogh Sacked   
    I can’t recall whether this has been posted before
    https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-boss-tony-mowbray-17007136
     
    Blackburn Rovers boss Tony Mowbray on Bradley Johnson's connection to Derby County incident
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    Spanish got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Keogh Sacked   
    I think it is likely that any echo of this event will last longer on here than in the outside football world
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    Spanish got a reaction from SKRam in Keogh Sacked   
    Sort of where I am.  Its the GM that shocks me.  Unless the club have completed a thorough investigation and the decision was made on more than a single event.  I wrote at the time that Mel would find it difficult seeing him everyday in physio realising he was paying big bucks for nothing.  The lack of public apology maybe reflecting a cocky attitude?  Tough but I for one won’t be launching a crowd funding effort to support him in his hour of need!  I am certainly sorry he has ended his career in this way but he clearly contributed to the problem
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    Spanish reacted to RoyMac5 in Keogh Sacked   
    Okay. Just Keogh then. He sat around drinking and let his younger team-mates drink and drive. Who knows what peer pressure was involved and from who. But it was not the behaviour expected from the captain of Derby County FC.
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    Spanish got a reaction from dcfcfan1 in Random stuff that people do that annoy me   
    Tom and mason our drunk drivers
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    Spanish reacted to Mucker1884 in Keogh Sacked   
    I take it you weren't around when Alan Biley hobbled around for the last ten minutes, to keep the numbers equal (only one sub allowed back then).
    OK, he could hardly walk, let alone kick the ball, but he went so far up in my estimation that day, I went straight out and bought every Rod Stewart Album I could find... in a sort of homage to him... sort of... a bit!  
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    Spanish got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Keogh Sacked   
    agreed, if I was at work and got bladdered at lunch time (I used to work in the city) and then hurt myself by falling over when I got back I don't think my employer would have been very sympathetic.  I also would guess that all the after 8's have received some form of punishment.
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    Spanish reacted to Andicis in Keogh Sacked   
    I don't think they do. He got offered the chance to stay on reduced terms, if he cared about the club as people were implying he would accept it. He's never publicly apologised for the night, and seemingly hasn't taken any responsibility for it. I don't know how Keogh is coming out of this positively.
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    Spanish reacted to ramsbottom in Keogh Sacked   
    I just think they're trying to make out it's a very black & white situation, when thanks to Percy's article everyone can see that it's anything but.
    Hopefully we'll have a Mel soundbite/interview to placate the masses.
    Just to reiterate, I think the club are 100% right to release him. And Keogh has been incredibly stupid/naive in turning the offer down.
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    Spanish got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Keogh Sacked   
    we don't know the source of the leak, maybe an attempt to meet your expectation of knowing things you are not entitled to. maybe it was somebody close to Keo trying to gain sympathy.  I think the leak was a poor decision by somebody.  Staff relations are a mine field, you are being incredibly harsh on our club to think every step in such matters should perfectly meet your expectations.
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    Spanish got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Keogh Sacked   
    And not have an instinct as the leader, the senior pro, the ‘dad’ to realise the danger that was lurking.  Doesn’t take much to say right lads this has gone too far none of you lot are driving home get the pub to get some taxis
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    Spanish got a reaction from Albert in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish reacted to GrimsbyRam in Keogh Sacked   
    My message was prefaced with ‘if’.  
    Without sounding facetious, have you heard of compromise agreements? There are numerous occasions whereby companies will try to settle matters to ‘avoid’ the matter going further. This would also prevent any future claim. This again is something that the club, as any multi Million pound business would do.
    Gross misconduct can cover gross negligence. The club has investigated the incident and allowed him to respond. We do not know if during this period the club appointed an external investigator, again which would (if my understanding is correct) provide some independency.
    I am not sure of the basis of any unfair dismissal claim.
    Has the reason he been given not the real one?  Well that’s an obvious yes. His role in the situation has lead to him not being able to perform his contract.
    Is it unfair? Well no because of his role in this he cannot perform his contract. If he seeks to argue that it is unfair because of the responses to similar actions of other employees, well there are cases to show that does not necessarily matter. The significant difference is that he cannot perform his contract. Lawrence and Bennett can.
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    Spanish got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from GrimsbyRam in Keogh Sacked   
    Sort of where I am.  Its the GM that shocks me.  Unless the club have completed a thorough investigation and the decision was made on more than a single event.  I wrote at the time that Mel would find it difficult seeing him everyday in physio realising he was paying big bucks for nothing.  The lack of public apology maybe reflecting a cocky attitude?  Tough but I for one won’t be launching a crowd funding effort to support him in his hour of need!  I am certainly sorry he has ended his career in this way but he clearly contributed to the problem
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    Spanish got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Keogh Sacked   
    How many times has he crawled into the back of a team mates car?  Not saying this is fact but maybe there is more to the misconduct than just this isolated event
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    Spanish reacted to Sparkle in Keogh Sacked   
    Firstly how dreadfully sad this is for a man who gave everything he could on the pitch for many years 
    I assume the club offered alternative employment which was turned down following an investigation and disciplinary hearing where there will be facts we are simply not party to.
    the other two players have been through a similar process and their punishment has been previously documented and accepted 
    and the finish up - what a dreadful situation for the club to have to deal with.
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    Spanish got a reaction from Ken Tram in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from Birdyabroad in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from The Scarlet Pimpernel in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from taffyram in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from Derby4Me in Keogh Sacked   
    trouble is that he is not competent to do the job he is paid for and he was contributory to the reasons why
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    Spanish got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Frank Lampard   
    incredible that even with these 3 we couldn't get promoted
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    Spanish got a reaction from Inverurie Ram in Derby County Flags   
    going there for 2 days next week, Cape Trafalgar tomorrow, anniversary of the battle 21/10.  When the weather is good try to go sit on the beach with a bottle of Cava and watch the sun go down
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    Spanish got a reaction from Inverurie Ram in Derby County Flags   
    If anybody meets them try to get them on here.  Nice to have additions to the existing spanish contingent.  Nice to know where they're based but I don't tweet.  Looks like seville given the NoDo.  FYI @richinspain
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