ilkleyram

Perhaps There (should be) a kind of hush all over the forum because For all we know we’re Hurting each other. On the Rainy days and Mondays many of us just seem to want Yesterday once more. It won’t be long before we’re Top of the world again. We’ve only just begun after all. 

Perhaps There (should be) a kind of hush all over the forum because For all we know we’re Hurting each other. On the Rainy days and Mondays many of us just seem to want Yesterday once more. It won’t be long before we’re Top of the world again. We’ve only just begun after all. 

👏 You , are a, Superstar, 

Perhaps There (should be) a kind of hush all over the forum because For all we know we’re Hurting each other. On the Rainy days and Mondays many of us just seem to want Yesterday once more. It won’t be long before we’re Top of the world again. We’ve only just begun after all. 

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

Depends on which part of the club you mean. 
The academy 3 to 4 years
The first team 2 to 3 years
Behind the scenes - ticket office/admin/recruitment/groundstaff etc 1 to 2 years
IMO we’re on track in all

The daft thing is that the Warne outers will get their way at some point. It’s 99% certain that he will be sacked. At which point they can say ‘told you so’/‘thank God’/I was right’ whatever 
A poll free and supportive period until that moment would probably help the rest of us. And make this forum as interesting as it used to be. Don’t suppose that’s going to happen though. 

I do confess to half enjoying the warne in warne out cut and thrust simply because that’s football fans and we are back to being football fans again after what we’ve been through with the club and the real possibility that we , our little corner of derby fans were never going to have that passionate disagree/debate again , yes I could give a view on whether it’s time the latest chelsea manager was sacked but my heart wouldn’t be in it , it’s not the same as telling roy Mac he talks rubbish one minute and being excited / celebrating over a game or result with him the next 🤷🏻‍♂️

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with