LesterRam Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39289269 Toyota is to invest £240m in upgrading its UK factory that makes the Auris and Avensis models. The Japanese carmaker's investment in the Burnaston plant near Derby will allow production of vehicles using its new global manufacturing system. The factory employs about 2,500 people, while another 590 work at Toyota's engine plant at Deeside, North Wales. Burnaston made about 180,000 vehicles last year, most of which are exported to Europe and other markets. Johan van Zyl, chief executive of Toyota Motor Europe, said the investment showed that the company was doing all it could to make Burnaston more competitive. However, he warned: "Continued tariff-and-barrier free market access between the UK and Europe that is predictable and uncomplicated will be vital for future success." Fantastic news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Funny that this is announced after all the pay rise negotiations have been concluded...... Wonder if they still declare a "loss" or a small profit each year still? Wonder when the pay negotiations are going on they still think they can compare pay rises to the public sector..... which they did. Wonder if they are still asking for "voluntary" early retirement Wonder how much of a sweetener the government have given them..... Its the Toyota Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, LesterRam said: However, he warned: "Continued tariff-and-barrier free market access between the UK and Europe that is predictable and uncomplicated will be vital for future success." Bit of a weird final statement though - kind of saying that we will invest as long as you guys don't screw up Brexit So what happens if we go down the "no deal is better than a bad deal" route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, StivePesley said: Bit of a weird final statement though - kind of saying that we will invest as long as you guys don't screw up Brexit So what happens if we go down the "no deal is better than a bad deal" route? Regardless, its a positive. I'm still sceptical over the big picture but surely this should be welcomed by remain voters like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, GboroRam said: Regardless, its a positive. I'm still sceptical over the big picture but surely this should be welcomed by remain voters like myself. yes you should you bugger, it only took a £500m backhander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 probably the only (realistic) employer I can categorically state that I would NEVER work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: probably the only (realistic) employer I can categorically state that I would NEVER work for. Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: probably the only (realistic) employer I can categorically state that I would NEVER work for. There must be a reason. Have you already worked there in the past.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 hours ago, StivePesley said: Bit of a weird final statement though - kind of saying that we will invest as long as you guys don't screw up Brexit So what happens if we go down the "no deal is better than a bad deal" route? Good old Stive got to find a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, King Kevin said: Good old Stive got to find a negative. Not really a negative - just an observation. I said it was weird - rather than saying it was terrible Just stimulating some debate Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Not really a negative - just an observation. I said it was weird - rather than saying it was terrible Just stimulating some debate Kev I know no worries , there is a line in the article which says EU and other markets ,you never know Toyota might think the other markets might be a winner post Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 5 hours ago, ketteringram said: There must be a reason. Have you already worked there in the past.? was a manager of a tier 1 supplier (or Category A, cannot remember which firm calls their main suppliers which), had to spend a lot of time over 6 years involved. It, in my opinion, is no place for a person of initiative, ambition, creativity, or even intelligence! They want robots, people who nod along. People like me, ideas people, continuous improvement experts, streamliners etc, have no place there. I saw many people have nervous/mental breakdown, and someone with my brain would probably end up in a bad way mentally, very quickly working under that regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: was a manager of a tier 1 supplier (or Category A, cannot remember which firm calls their main suppliers which), had to spend a lot of time over 6 years involved. It, in my opinion, is no place for a person of initiative, ambition, creativity, or even intelligence! They want robots, people who nod along. People like me, ideas people, continuous improvement experts, streamliners etc, have no place there. I saw many people have nervous/mental breakdown, and someone with my brain would probably end up in a bad way mentally, very quickly working under that regime. Bit like most companies then.. Worked for the Japs for 10 years, they take a bit of getting used to and are generally really frustrating people.... But when you are excepted and not just a round eyed barbarian, they are very loyal and honerable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I haven't heard great things from people I know that have worked at Burnaston, only know of 1 still working there. I was once offered a job by Toyota as a paint chemist, not long after I graduated and was still local. I very nearly took it but I am glad I didn't with hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: was a manager of a tier 1 supplier (or Category A, cannot remember which firm calls their main suppliers which), had to spend a lot of time over 6 years involved. It, in my opinion, is no place for a person of initiative, ambition, creativity, or even intelligence! They want robots, people who nod along. People like me, ideas people, continuous improvement experts, streamliners etc, have no place there. I saw many people have nervous/mental breakdown, and someone with my brain would probably end up in a bad way mentally, very quickly working under that regime. Completely agree. They will bully you out if you don't fit in, put pressure on you to do the impossible and create an environment where everyone begins to watch you closely. Even those who are already struggling themselves will join in, it's a ******* sad state of affairs when that happens. I used to work in the paint sprayer section. Horrible working environment in there, absolutely detestable. There was a guy who had repetitive strain injury in one of his arms. They just shoved him in the inspection area and left him to rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 10 hours ago, StivePesley said: Bit of a weird final statement though - kind of saying that we will invest as long as you guys don't screw up Brexit So what happens if we go down the "no deal is better than a bad deal" route? Sounds like a shot across. Ms May's bows to get a similar deal to the one she did with Nissan. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: was a manager of a tier 1 supplier (or Category A, cannot remember which firm calls their main suppliers which), had to spend a lot of time over 6 years involved. It, in my opinion, is no place for a person of initiative, ambition, creativity, or even intelligence! They want robots, people who nod along. People like me, ideas people, continuous improvement experts, streamliners etc, have no place there. I saw many people have nervous/mental breakdown, and someone with my brain would probably end up in a bad way mentally, very quickly working under that regime. There's a reason why Toyota have had to recall over 30 million vehicles over the last 10 years.....poka yoke my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I gave them 11 and a half years. Everyone knows my addled brain..... they did too, I got sacked for aggressively confronting someone who decided to take the mickey about my mental state. No violence occurred, and still got chopped. The 11 and a half years there though have left me in good stead since. If you can work there, you can handle most other things. Physically and mentally exhausting...... divorce rate is high there. As @Mostyn6 says.... just a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I've done a bit of studying of how to manage in different cultures. East Asian cultures particularly stress the collective over the individual. Behaviour is targeted towards the good of the group. One faintly amusing manifestation were those clips of Japanese workers starting the day with the company song. Less amusing is the compulsion to conform. In unenlightened organisations this could manifest itself in a number of ways that we, as a western European nation that is individualistic in nature would find alien and unsettling. Genuine question to those fellow posters who worked there. ....does the above analysis resonate with your experience? Ie any notion of self as an individual was suppressed either overtly or indirectly (through eg poorer performance reviews)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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