Boycie Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 hours ago, TroyDyer said: Who's he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Sako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, David said: Sako What's he got to do with owt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 hours ago, sage said: Get Simon Clough in instead Seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Why would we bring Simon Clough back? Didn't he identify half of this team of supposed failures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 35 minutes ago, Boycie said: What's he got to do with owt? We like to sako all our managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 We could do with nabbing Southampton's talent spotter or even Bournemouth's. If we have aspirations of emulating these two then we need to start by recruiting better players than has recently been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 51 minutes ago, Boycie said: What's he got to do with owt? Their manager got the Sako today, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Like someone else alluded to, we brought that bloke in from Tottenham a few months ago . Would seem odd if we got rid of him unless they're planning on working together. I guess 2 brains are better than 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Why would we bring Simon Clough back? Didn't he identify half of this team of supposed failures? Nope, he identified the ones we keep relying on some 3 years later all of which were signed for a pitence of what we've paid since, literally a pitence in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Cardifframs said: Havnt we bought 2 x top scouts in,one from spurs? Yeah these two... (i assume they are still at the club) http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/derby-county-strengthens-player-recruitment-operations-with-the-dual-appointment-of-steve-hitchen-and-rob-mackenzie-3240880.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Nope, he identified the ones we keep relying on some 3 years later all of which were signed for a pitence of what we've paid since, literally a pitence in comparison Relying on for what? Don't get me wrong, I think we made some excellent signings but it's amazing how they go from being excellent signings, to failures, to players that don't try and then back to excellent players all within about 2 months to suit different agendas. What we paid for players is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 We should just stalk Burton and buy anyone they are going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Relying on for what? Don't get me wrong, I think we made some excellent signings but it's amazing how they go from being excellent signings, to failures, to players that don't try and then back to excellent players all within about 2 months to suit different agendas. What we paid for players is irrelevant. So many players get burdened by their price tag. Johnson,Butterfield, Blackman, Ince, Vydra....all debatable value transfers, all "reasonable" championship players. All will not be seperated from their price tags in some fans minds. For we brought a lot of "just the wrong guy" transfers, and paid to much, but they are different aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 14 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Relying on for what? Don't get me wrong, I think we made some excellent signings but it's amazing how they go from being excellent signings, to failures, to players that don't try and then back to excellent players all within about 2 months to suit different agendas. What we paid for players is irrelevant. Depends who u ask, I'm a more level headed supporter, don't get me wrong I vent a bit in the heat of the moment but players don't go from being crap to world beaters in my book week by week. I don't buy the not trying thing, I'm not sure about the fitness thing either if truth be told although I question concentration levels of some at times which can be attributed to fitness. I think both are scapegoats too often used by fans imo what i do think is that we've been mismanaged and recruited terribly post clough, I am a clough fan but I'm not blinkered to the fact that tactically he'd never have got us up but recruitment wise him and his team recruited players that were hungry, played with desire and there were more than a fair few with plenty of ability which imo is a lot more than why we have recruited since, i do think what we pay them is hugely relevant as we've now backed ourselves into a bit of a corner in terms off ffp because we've paid stupid money for some lets say so so players we have vastly limited our riggle room in the transfer market, good job we got 10m for Jeff (Simon clough find I believe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Depends who u ask, I'm a more level headed supporter, don't get me wrong I vent a bit in the heat of the moment but players don't go from being crap to world beaters in my book week by week. I don't buy the not trying thing, I'm not sure about the fitness thing either if truth be told although I question concentration levels of some at times which can be attributed to fitness. I think both are scapegoats too often used by fans imo what i do think is that we've been mismanaged and recruited terribly post clough, I am a clough fan but I'm not blinkered to the fact that tactically he'd never have got us up but recruitment wise him and his team recruited players that were hungry, played with desire and there were more than a fair few with plenty of ability which imo is a lot more than why we have recruited since, i do think what we pay them is hugely relevant as we've now backed ourselves into a bit of a corner in terms off ffp because we've paid stupid money for some lets say so so players we have vastly limited our riggle room in the transfer market, good job we got 10m for Jeff (Simon clough find I believe) Fair points. The Clough signings need a bit of relativity adding to them, after all his record signing was Conor Sammon! For every good signing there were 1 or 2 bad ones. Re FFP there doesn't seem to be much let up in the spending. Breaking our transfer record in the last window would not really seem to indicate that we have backed ourselves into a corner! Hendrick was at the club before Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: i do think what we pay them is hugely relevant as we've now backed ourselves into a bit of a corner in terms off ffp because we've paid stupid money for some lets say so so players we have vastly limited our riggle room in the transfer market, good job we got 10m for Jeff (Simon clough find I believe) Did S Clough get him into the academy? If so, then that's really good. Back a few years ago I was under the impression the academy wasn't very good (Wassall has done good work there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Fair points. The Clough signings need a bit of relativity adding to them, after all his record signing was Conor Sammon! For every good signing there were 1 or 2 bad ones. Re FFP there doesn't seem to be much let up in the spending. Breaking our transfer record in the last window would not really seem to indicate that we have backed ourselves into a corner! Re ffp, time will tell, none of us know if those transfers didn't rely on the deal for Hendrick and Martin going through, the anya one was very late in the day but let's be honest we don't know. I hate the Connor Sammon throw back lol he got one wrong, let's say Chris ' the man most want back' Martin, signed on a free transfer offsets that lol or that centre half he signed from Barnsley for about half a million that we had to resign some 2-3 years later for about 8 times that amount. i would never argue with anybody that tactically he wasn't naive or anything like that it in terms of recruitment he got it so much more right than anything we've had since I was going to post this a separate thread as its been rattling around my head but being as we're on the subject. since clough name 3 signings that we've made that have been good Value for what we paid and worth their shirt ?? I can name 2, 3 at a push the irony is I can name 3 clough ones for every 1, quite easily scarily for me Pearce (more recently and was free) carson (has made the odd error but a solid keeper for this level) Christie (genuinely not a fan, I just prefer defenders that can reliably defend but I recognise what a good outlet he has and can be for us, not currently perhaps but for the money we paid a very good signing) after that im struggling, genuinely who else has stepped up and we can honestly hand on heart say yer worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 7 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Did S Clough get him into the academy? If so, then that's really good. Back a few years ago I was under the impression the academy wasn't very good (Wassall has done good work there) I'm wrong he was, I was under the impression we signed him from some small Irish club, I know they sourced Charles Vernom from Ssausagehorpe but obviously he's not there yet sadly lol I'm sure it was cloughs reign that saw an overhaul of the accademy and Wassall brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Not sure there was much wrong this summer. We were linked with some players I really would've liked us to sign, but Newcastle nicked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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