Philmycock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Martinh said: I don't think you know what you need. Hi. Martin, what can you offer Derby County Soccer Club? Can you. Get us in the top league? Pronto? And how? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, philmycock said: Hi. Martin, what can you offer Derby County Soccer Club? Can you. Get us in the top league? Pronto? And how? Thank you. From his LinkedIn page, he can Lay the bricks If the academy needs Extending, he was a construction Manager, before he became a football Consultant . It's just a shame he didn't, Learn to construct a Sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Zonal defence does not work, man for man marking, with a sweeper free is the only way to defend as a team. Every player has responsibility for an opposition player, all over the pitch. The centre forward is responsible for either centre back who comes forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Martinh said: Zonal defence does not work, man for man marking, with a sweeper free is the only way to defend as a team. Every player has responsibility for an opposition player, all over the pitch. The centre forward is responsible for either centre back who comes forward. Is this some sort of poem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 The common response is. Players pulled out of position leaving gaps to be exploited. My response, if everyone is doing their job and everyone is accounted for, who is going to exploit the spaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Martinh said: Zonal defence does not work, man for man marking, with a sweeper free is the only way to defend as a team. Every player has responsibility for an opposition player, all over the pitch. The centre forward is responsible for either centre back who comes forward. Have you seen us play? Only, our defence isn't too shabby. It's up front (offensively) we're struggling! How can we score more?? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, Martinh said: Zonal defence does not work, man for man marking, with a sweeper free is the only way to defend as a team. Every player has responsibility for an opposition player, all over the pitch. The centre forward is responsible for either centre back who comes forward. Zonal marking can be effective, for example when defending free kicks and corners against a team who have a height advantage over you. Many teams have a height advantage over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, philmycock said: 13 minutes ago, philmycock said: Have you seen us play? Only, our defence isn't too shabby. It's up front (offensively) we're struggling! How can we score more?? Thank you. I am afraid there is little more I am prepared to do here. This caller showing some signs of respect thankfully. Your whole game is a shambles, I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, RamuelLJackson said: Zonal marking can be effective, for example when defending free kicks and corners against a team who have a height advantage over you. Many teams have a height advantage over us. Sorry I did not see this post. Thank you. This is outweighed terribly after the play has broken down, let's say. The next phase, all opponents are given time and space. What we were always taught to deny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Martinh said: Sorry I did not see this post. Thank you. This is outweighed terribly after the play has broken down, let's say. The next phase, all opponents are given time and space. What we were always taught to deny. I can see why you are an out of work football consultant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: I can see why you are an out of work football consultant I'm thinking his man-management skills are negligible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I am what I am. Tried and failed here. Let you good folks be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Martinh said: I am what I am. Tried and failed here. Let you good folks be. Didn't try very hard. Try ltlf.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Detecting in there somewhere life. You know about f... all about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 30 minutes ago, Martinh said: Detecting in there somewhere life. You know about f... all about football. Fiesty one you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Martinh said: Sorry I did not see this post. Thank you. This is outweighed terribly after the play has broken down, let's say. The next phase, all opponents are given time and space. What we were always taught to deny. When executed properly, zonal marking at defensive set plays can also set up quick counter-attacking, and of course man marking can still happen under other situations. I'm not saying DCFC necessarily have the players to make this work, but I do think dismissing zonal marking out of hand is unwise. It has a role to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 How can you man mark if the teams are set up massively different? It would require players playing way out of position? If Derby stuck strictly to man marking then who picks up who in midfield if we came up against a flat 442? That's how you end up getting an entire team dragged all over the place. You can't stick to just man marking or just zonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 As a football consultant, I am sure you will have realised our problems are in attack rather than defence at the moment. Not sure how man to man marking is going to increase the number of goals we score or improve our shooting accuracy, please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 8 hours ago, Alpha said: 1 How can you man mark if the teams are set up massively different? 2 It would require players playing way out of position? 3 If Derby stuck strictly to man marking then who picks up who in midfield if we came up against a flat 442? 4 That's how you end up getting an entire team dragged all over the place. 5 You can't stick to just man marking or just zonal. 1 Doesn't matter how they set up. Find a player and mark him, that is not hard. 2 & 4 You are overestimating the intelligence of the average football manager. Call it one upmanship, you thought of it first. They know better. Don't adapt or even copy. Result leave all their players in the same place. 3 I start every game 4 3 3. If they have three up front I have three marking at the back plus a sweeper. If they have four in midfield I push a defender in to mark him. If they have five in midfield I push another defender in to mark him. Congest their play in midfield as far away from our goal as possible. 5 Zonal defense is defeatist by nature. Giving the opposition too much time and space on and off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinh Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: 1 As a football consultant, I am sure you will have realised our problems are in attack rather than defence at the moment. Not sure how man to man marking is going to increase the number of goals we score or improve our shooting accuracy, please explain. 1 At the moment, until the next game you let in two or three goals. 2 To score goals you need the ball. This system will give you an awful lot of it. For me the game is basically three parts. How to defend. How to attack. Skill. In answer to a previous question. Google man to man marking. My information this system was used successfully back in 1960 or so. Never deemed ineffective but extremely disliked for being unattractive. I believe good defensive play can be combined with good attacking play, not to i'ts detriment. I have given you 1/3 rd of my life's work. How to defend. Will respectfully hold on to attack and skill. I say I can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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