bigbadbob Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, toddy said: You know the answer! Dignitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, curtains said: The players didn't try for Pearson are they trying now. I don't agree they didn't try for NP, but I do think some didn't agree that his way was going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Dignitas Putting them down seems a tad harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RamuelLJackson said: Putting them down seems a tad harsh. Cruel to be kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Which January and why? Some aren't here are they? You said Pearson was to blame for Shiite performances, well he's gone we have had 5 games since are in a worse position and currently sitting in 21st position. We do look like a team that will be battling relegation this season not promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, toddy said: You said Pearson was to blame for Shiite performances, well he's gone we have had 5 games since are in a worse position and currently sitting in 21st position. We do look like a team that will be battling relegation this season not promotion How much more do you expect Mac to do in a week (and no transfers) than NP in months and a transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: How much more do you expect Mac to do in a week (and no transfers) than NP in months and a transfer window? If the players are good enough and you place a quality coach to work with them you should see results, you should see an improved performance, if are you are in any doubt - just look at Cardiff and Warnock-were below us now above us....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, toddy said: I f the players are good enough and you place a quality coach to work with them you should see results, you should see an improved performance, if are you are in any doubt - just look at Cardiff and Warnock-were below us now above us....... What kind of a statement is 'if the players are good enough'? Do you mean all of them then?! And if there's some that aren't well what are you expecting, you better hold your breath until January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Dignitas Yes but DCFC will still be crap though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What kind of a statement is 'if the players are good enough'? Do you mean all of them then?! And if there's some that aren't well what are you expecting, you better hold your breath until January! Good enough to compete in this league. Yes, its a team effort of lack of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, toddy said: Good enough to compete in this league. Yes, its a team effort of lack of it. And so what do you think we should do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, curtains said: Yes but DCFC will still be crap though At least you won't have to suffer your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, toddy said: You said Pearson was to blame for Shiite performances, well he's gone we have had 5 games since are in a worse position and currently sitting in 21st position. We do look like a team that will be battling relegation this season not promotion it takes a lot longer to coach GOOD than to coach BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, bigbadbob said: At least you won't have to suffer your pain. Glad your still supporting this shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, curtains said: Glad your still supporting this shower. Well I am on the XO tonight to help numb it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It is what I original said weeks/months ago, players have peaked and are not good enough. A mass clear out is required and a new build required, my only concern is this will continue on till January, by then we could be in the bottom 3 and without another manager if Mel gets trigger happy. We need to back Mac now give him time to get rid of most of the squad and rebuild with players that he wants, even if we do end up bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: it takes a lot longer to coach GOOD than to coach BAD Ask Warnock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It goes to show that you can't polish a turd. Clement will go on in management, Pearson will go on in management and if sacked, so will SM. The players are to blame and the merry go round of managers has let them get away with it. They don't preform when they don't fancy it. They don't have the mental strength and desire to achieve and if any one dares make a change, the phone gets picked up and the man gets the boot. Spoilt brats on big money with no desire for the status quo to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, toddy said: If the players are good enough and you place a quality coach to work with them you should see results, you should see an improved performance, if are you are in any doubt - just look at Cardiff and Warnock-were below us now above us....... You just don't get modern football Toddy, you just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 McClaren has been here for 10 days ffs. In that time, there have been 3 games. Plus at least 2 recovery days, if not 3. That leaves 4-5 DAYS for him to be working on the side. Yes, he may have worked a minor miracle last time round - but the squad that Clough built had far fewer problems than this bunch are exhibiting. And therein lies the biggest frustration for me - we KNOW these players can perform, it can't just be that they aren't good enough. The players need to be fitter, against Leeds and Brentford they were blowing out their bums - sounds like the same happened today. That won't change in the course of less than a week's training. That'll take weeks, if not months. Can't help but feel a squad stripping is due. Shocking recruitment has put us back a season, at least, with double the damage with the lack of emergency loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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