Mostyn6 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I'm not really going to judge on league position too much - but there's enough about this squad to get close to the playoffs, if not squeak in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Truthfully, it's probably worth keeping him on until his contract ends in 17/18, unless we're nowhere near next year. This year I'd expect us to make some movement up the table, but I can't expect too much. I'm eerily reminded of Brighton, who after the playoff semi losses to us in 13/14, had a nightmare in 14/15. Hughton was simply tasked with keeping them up when he came in, but then he made them competitors again the following season. So I mean there is damage that needs undoing. I'm conscious of that, think we all should be conscious of that. This year just get us comfortably clear of the dropzone. So that doesn't mean finishing 20th or 21st and staying up on goal difference. Anything above 18th will do for this season. I want and expect better, but this is a question of what would it take for him to lose his job in my view. Only relegation or near-relegation would do that for me. And only at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Can we just start playing football again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Tombo said: Truthfully, it's probably worth keeping him on until his contract ends in 17/18, unless we're nowhere near next year. This year I'd expect us to make some movement up the table, but I can't expect too much. I'm eerily reminded of Brighton, who after the playoff semi losses to us in 13/14, had a nightmare in 14/15. Hughton was simply tasked with keeping them up when he came in, but then he made them competitors again the following season. So I mean there is damage that needs undoing. I'm conscious of that, think we all should be conscious of that. This year just get us comfortably clear of the dropzone. So that doesn't mean finishing 20th or 21st and staying up on goal difference. Anything above 18th will do for this season. I want and expect better, but this is a question of what would it take for him to lose his job in my view. Only relegation or near-relegation would do that for me. And only at the end of the season. I was just about to write pretty much the same thing. As long as their some improvement from our start and there is evidence of it 'coming together' he at least gets another season for me. It's absolutely crazy to EXPECT playoffs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 23 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: I'm not really going to judge on league position too much - but there's enough about this squad to get close to the playoffs, if not squeak in. I actually think if Mac can get us on a path to the playoffs this season, we'd probably win them. To get to the playoffs now would require us to be one of the best two teams in the league from now till the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 10th - 7th. With the players we have and now the manager we have, we're more than capable of that. Sunderland won the league with a much more workmanlike team from a similar position under Keane so I don't see why we can't steadily climb the table. However first and foremost I think everybody would just like a return to the quick pass & move stuff we enjoyed during Schteve's first go as manager. If Waffall was able to get the occasional performance out of roughly the same group of players, there's no reason why he can't as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I would expect that at best we will finish between 7th - 10th position. I am not sure how much this will tell us, as it's likely that Powell would have achieved that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adslegend Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Personally I'd prefer to judge it on how our football is. If it's entertaining and easy on the eye then that's enough for me. Get the football back first and then worry about results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Top ten finish with an improvement in the quality of football, he has to set the club up for next season, some deadwood needs to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Adslegend said: Personally I'd prefer to judge it on how our football is. If it's entertaining and easy on the eye then that's enough for me. Get the football back first and then worry about results. I agree with this, but I also think that good football inevitably yields good results. There'd have to be an awful lot of anomalous results for us to have played well and somehow finish lower than 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 This poll goes against everything MM said on Tuesday. Lower your expectations people and lets just see what happens, as supporters, we can help to move the team up the league. (although I don't understand why you didn't have a selection for winning the league ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I gone 7th to 10th, but if he can get confidence into the players ASAP, there is no reason not to be able to get into the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 For me we should be looking for a top half finish. But if we dont and the signs are there of good football but needing a few tweaks and a couple of players to really hit the play offs next season then I will be happy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Adslegend said: Personally I'd prefer to judge it on how our football is. If it's entertaining and easy on the eye then that's enough for me. Get the football back first and then worry about results. Spot on. Same here. Get some exciting high tempo attacking football and then see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I have said play offs because your target should always be the best possible given the circumstances . But I'd be happy with top half of the table, a high goals scored figure and teams being frightened to come to the Ipro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 What frightens me is that nearly 3% of us think avoiding relegation is a reasonable objective. What !! ???? If you extrapolate that to a home crowd then 1000 people must be of the "I bet your fun at parties" brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, jono said: What frightens me is that nearly 3% of us think avoiding relegation is a reasonable objective. What !! ???? If you extrapolate that to a home crowd then 1000 people must be of the "I bet your fun at parties" brigade ehhh you can't really extrapolate that it's only 2 people and is a bit of a poor sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 POLL: (requested by Anon). McClaren's objectives; What is acceptable. ..........................Stringing more than two passes to a white shirt would be a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I hope we make the play offs. I expect us to still be capable of making the play offs. But there isn't one route to the play offs. If we start well and then fall apart like we did under Mcclaren last time during his second season then I will be annoyed. Who wouldn't. Circumstances are everything. Just getting behind him and the side is all that matters in the first 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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