Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, bcnram said: You cannot stop playing in competitions because you may or may not get injured, that's a tad daft. I thought the idea was that these players were back up for the first team but they can't do that if they are injured because of too many physical battles against league opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 minute ago, curtains said: I thought the idea was that these players were back up for the first team but they can't do that if they are injured because of too many physical battles against league opposition Young players do exist in the lower leagues too. Just because you're a young player coming up against a League Two centre back doesn't mean you're going to pick up injuries just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kernow said: Young players do exist in the lower leagues too. Just because you're a young player coming up against a League Two centre back doesn't mean you're going to pick up injuries just like that. I mean we already have Zanzala injured . The tougher the competition the more the likelihood of injuries that's why some clubs don't play competitive reserve games etc. They need their reserves fresh as back up to the first team in a long season . I suppose once again it's a balancing act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, curtains said: I thought the idea was that these players were back up for the first team but they can't do that if they are injured because of too many physical battles against league opposition They are being developed as players, part of that development is being able to deal with different types of football. Some teams in the two lower divisions may be more physical than they would get playing against other U21/23's, but some of them play good football. By the same token, it helps the teams in Leagues 1 & 2,coming up against more skillful players than they normally would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 hour ago, curtains said: I thought the idea was that these players were back up for the first team but they can't do that if they are injured because of too many physical battles against league opposition So when they are in the first team against Championship teams are they not going to come against many physical battles? What about against Ipswich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, rynny said: So when they are in the first team against Championship teams are they not going to come against many physical battles? What about against Ipswich? Yes but the idea is you bring one or two in slowly. Just had a thought though no emergency loans after August. How will that effect us with injuries in key positions. Same for all clubs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, curtains said: Yes but the idea is you bring one or two in slowly. Just had a thought though no emergency loans after August. How will that effect us with injuries in key positions. Same for all clubs though. The same it would if they were out on loan to gain experience, can't see much of a difference. Playing in a competitive game, against league one or 2 players. Where do you think most of our under 21's would go on loan to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 45 minutes ago, curtains said: Yes but the idea is you bring one or two in slowly. Just had a thought though no emergency loans after August. How will that effect us with injuries in key positions. Same for all clubs though. But isn't this bringing them in slowly? 3 games, not like it is a full season? What's the difference between playing a young player against any team in any division? If they are good enough, they are good enough, and this gives us a better idea overall who is good enough and who isn't than a loan, we can see how they prepare, how they react to the situations of the match, what they are like in the dressing rooms. No loans should not affect us. Our squad is big enough to cope, bar multiple injuries in the same position. We didn't have a single player on loan last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 27/07/2016 at 10:34, Srg said: "If group fixtures are level at 90 minutes, a penalty shoot-out will take place to earn the winner an extra point." Uh oh. So you get 2 points for drawing. Great news for any Portuguese players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Dreadful decision to take part in this compition. I hope no one turns up and it gets scrapped even before its complete. for the 1st time ever as a Rams fan I couldn't give 2 s**** if we get beat in every game. Leave this competition to the lower league teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 On 7/15/2016 at 14:08, Animal is a Ram said: U23s http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-county-would-play-in-new-look-efl-trophy-if-invited/story-29516098-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Well, I've bought my ticket for the Grimsby game and am really looking forward to it. As far as I see it I get a chance to watch some of our up and comings in a tournament that will test them in a decent competitive environment. To an extenet I feel a bit sorry for some lower league clubs who see this as a chance for some silver ware and a trip to Wembley and may now end up facing certain "youth" teams from the Prem .. Any takers for front lines like Rashford, Lindgard and Januzaj. ! Anyway I am going to watch a footy match with the Rams playing and hoping to spot some talent. Politics at this point doesn't bother me for what is essentially an experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, jono said: Well, I've bought my ticket for the Grimsby game and am really looking forward to it. As far as I see it I get a chance to watch some of our up and comings in a tournament that will test them in a decent competitive environment. To an extenet I feel a bit sorry for some lower league clubs who see this as a chance for some silver ware and a trip to Wembley and may now end up facing certain "youth" teams from the Prem .. Any takers for front lines like Rashford, Lindgard and Januzaj. ! Anyway I am going to watch a footy match with the Rams playing and hoping to spot some talent. Politics at this point doesn't bother me for what is essentially an experiment. You make some good points Jono especially about lower league clubs but IMO and speaking from experience, lower league clubs and the majority of their fans treat the JPT the same as Prem clubs and their fans treat the League / FA Cups. Only ramping it up in the latter stages. It shouldn't really be that bigger deal. The urine-taking comes when some clubs get byes in the first rounds yet most have to put on a fixture and compete, a ridiculous set of circumstances that further devalues the competition. I believe this new format will eradicate this. I've been to lots of early round JPT games and they are like pre season friendlies with crowds (a contradiction in terms) of about 3 blokes and a greyhound. I went to a semi final a few years back with some Oldham fans and it still felt like a friendly! The competition desperately needs some impetus and refreshment there is little doubt about that and at least this new format will give it that. Whether it's the best solution i'm not so sure but it's something different and it will be interesting to see how it pans out. I'll be attending anyway and supporting the lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 @jono the Grimsby game is the EFL CUP not the EFL TROPHY, although we might see a few of the youngsters in that game aswell but I expect Pearson to use his 1st team squad players that don't play against Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 @Rich84Now I am really confused ! .. I thought the EFL cup or trophy were the same thing and what for a while has been the Johnson Paints Trophy ? But rebranded ? .., The League Cup is entirely different ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, jono said: @Rich84Now I am really confused ! .. I thought the EFL cup or trophy were the same thing and what for a while has been the Johnson Paints Trophy ? But rebranded ? .., The League Cup is entirely different ? The EFL cup is the new name of the league cup, previously known as the Capital 1 cup, coca cola cup, Worthington cup, Carling cup, Milk cup, littlwoods challenge cup and the rumbelows cup. The EFL trophy is now the name of the football league trophy previously known as the Johnstone paint trophy. Hope that clears it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Thanks @rynny I think in part I got confused because on the fixture list they now show cups seperately from the main calendar. and there is and no mention of this new fangled trophy ( I need thick persons or Duhhh emoji ) anyway I going to the Grimsby game and 7 quid is a fair price for a ticket Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, jono said: Thanks @rynny I think in part I got confused because on the fixture list they now show cups seperately from the main calendar. and there is and no mention of this new fangled trophy ( I need thick persons or Duhhh emoji ) anyway I going to the Grimsby game and 7 quid is a fair price for a ticket Thanks again No mention likely because it's not a first team game, in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Now the Checkatrade Trophy. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Now the Checkatrade Trophy. Oh dear. Has Channel 5 written all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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