Curtains Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 With all this speculation about Hendrick and Russell is it a case of 1 We need some funds before we can buy . 2 FFP is a problem 3 Players want to leave and player agents are at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 . Pure speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I doubt any first teamers want to leave at the moment, others who want to play regularly Pearce, Baird Buxton etc..( Well perhaps not Bucko). might want a fresh start. Better to go up playing with a winning team etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottrillRAM Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I haven't seen any speculation about Russell at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 5. Maybe we havent, but maybe we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 for Hendrick 3 for Russell - Spend 8 on Kodjia loan Matty James and De Laet - 2nd place promotion behind Newcastle jobs a good'n Premier League lets be having you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 6. Maybe Nigel should work out what his team needs first then buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, HantsRam said: 6. Maybe Nigel should work out what his team needs first then buy. Or sell After we have played a few games he will have more of an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, curtains said: Or sell. Agreed. If the question is speculative about our financial position vis a vis ffp then I believe Mel always has the option to convert any debt (loans) to equity (non refundable investment ) in order to comply. So it would be a "no" from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Do we need to sell before we buy? No. Should we? Yes - in my opinion. Not for financial reasons, you can only have so large a team before it starts telling. Even by the end of the season, Clement, then Wassall still didn't know what their best team was. Plus, you can't expect to keep them all happy as some will inevitably miss out. Yes, there needs to be a squad large enough to cope with injuries or suspensions, but I think we need to start trimming down so that there's a path for the U21s (or U23s, now) to break through. New manager, clean slate, we've heard a lot in the last couple of weeks. I expect as we play a few more friendlies, get the Euro lads back in the loop, we'll see more movement. In fact, I dare say we won't properly start until the season has - I think we might be operating right up until the deadline. Sure, it will cost us more, but it makes more sense from a squad building point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Do we need to sell before we buy? No. Should we? Yes - in my opinion. Not for financial reasons, you can only have so large a team before it starts telling. Even by the end of the season, Clement, then Wassall still didn't know what their best team was. Plus, you can't expect to keep them all happy as some will inevitably miss out. Yes, there needs to be a squad large enough to cope with injuries or suspensions, but I think we need to start trimming down so that there's a path for the U21s (or U23s, now) to break through. New manager, clean slate, we've heard a lot in the last couple of weeks. I expect as we play a few more friendlies, get the Euro lads back in the loop, we'll see more movement. In fact, I dare say we won't properly start until the season has - I think we might be operating right up until the deadline. Sure, it will cost us more, but it makes more sense from a squad building point of view. That's a very good post to be honest. I suppose it's a fact of life that you can't keep everybody happy all of the time but don't forget the renumeration and rewards for these players is very very good so they should be fairly happy as I can think of a lot worse day to day jobs which are minimum wage jobs Its a balancing act at the end of the day . These U23 players have to be good enough though or what's the point of bringing them through as you can't just bring them through for the sake of it just to say the Academy works No point in selling for the sake of it either . If your good enough you will generally make it as a footballer and it's all about application and ability Just hope Pearson and Powell get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Do we need to sell before we buy? No. Should we? Yes - in my opinion. Not for financial reasons, you can only have so large a team before it starts telling. Even by the end of the season, Clement, then Wassall still didn't know what their best team was. Plus, you can't expect to keep them all happy as some will inevitably miss out. Yes, there needs to be a squad large enough to cope with injuries or suspensions, but I think we need to start trimming down so that there's a path for the U21s (or U23s, now) to break through. New manager, clean slate, we've heard a lot in the last couple of weeks. I expect as we play a few more friendlies, get the Euro lads back in the loop, we'll see more movement. In fact, I dare say we won't properly start until the season has - I think we might be operating right up until the deadline. Sure, it will cost us more, but it makes more sense from a squad building point of view. Agreed, this is a very good post. On the other hand, keeping them happy by paying a large wage bill is a strain on the finances and will eventually impact on what we pay at the turn styles. (Some might argue this has already started). I am sure the new management were fully aware of the financial situation before they agreed to their new jobs. NP and co will be fully assessing what they have over the next few weeks and will, I suggest trim a few from the fat and maybe tweak the first team by spending what they make with a couple of players deemed required to strengthen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Would a week in Spain have taught you what we needed and the names of anyone whose head went down when Benfica escorted us to the Cleaners? I think that I would have a very clear idea. Pearson has already said that we do not have the strength in depth that he would like. He will probably garner cash from a few sales having already sounded out two or three players as replacements, probably on loan. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 hours ago, HantsRam said: Agreed. If the question is speculative about our financial position vis a vis ffp then I believe Mel always has the option to convert any debt (loans) to equity (non refundable investment ) in order to comply. So it would be a "no" from me. To comply with FFP, not as easy to convert debt into equity as you may think. If it was that easy QPR, Leicester and Bournemouth would have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 In answer to the OP, haven't got a clue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwash_Ram Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 We could have a net spend this season of £5-10M and still be within FFP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Grantona said: To comply with FFP, not as easy to convert debt into equity as you may think. If it was that easy QPR, Leicester and Bournemouth would have done it. The advice is always to loan or you can't get your money back out. Least that's what I was told when funding Mrs hants' small business. So it's administratively easy to do but a massive leap of faith by the investors - if you are giving equity you're basically saying "nah, don't need the money back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Because of the squad size, it might be players wanting first team football, after all as a player all you want to do is play not bench warm........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 The spending was done last season, we just needed the manager to manage them, we now have a manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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