Van der MoodHoover Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So says the BBC website along with a picture of a smiling Sam Rush and Schteeve obviously taken some while ago. Just as well they pay no heed to the views expressed on here.Question to my fellow bloggers is when in your humble opinion of the lexicon of reviews does "limited" become "thorough" become "draconian". Is it possible to have a really thorough review and conclude very little needs to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Very little does need changing. We were in the top 6 for nearly the entire season. Just find out what happened at the end and stop it happening again. Keep the team spirit, keep the style, get back to decimating teams and perhaps being a bit careless at the back. Outscore teams. We only started conceding stupid goals because the defenders got worried about conceding stupid goals. The only way to end that vicious circle is to take all the pressure off and let the defenders do whatever.If you listen to some on here, we should be 'draconian' in defence but that's exactly the reason we've suffered. We have to be a more liberated and creatively free team all over the park but that's all. No massive changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Well, Rampton (is he actually an inmate or an employee?) reckons that the players "…should all f*** off" - so that's one vote for a Draconian review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not too much does need to change. It has to be remembered we did nearly everything perfect this season. Just the last part we fell away spectacularly.We need to get injured players sorted first and foremost. The spine of Bucko Thorne and Martin. Then we need to offload players that aren't good enough for a top 2/playoff push. Look at what positions we need to sign players. We don't need lots of changes, real quality over quantity. Players who are going to come in and be on the team sheet. Then decide Thorne isn't going to play every game, get some competition in for him. Also recognise the need for a CB to partner Keogh and actually have Keogh and someone being pushed by Bucko and Albentosa for their places increasing their performance levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberValleyRam1884 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not too much does need to change. It has to be remembered we did nearly everything perfect this season. Just the last part we fell away spectacularly.We need to get injured players sorted first and foremost. The spine of Bucko Thorne and Martin. Then we need to offload players that aren't good enough for a top 2/playoff push. Look at what positions we need to sign players. We don't need lots of changes, real quality over quantity. Players who are going to come in and be on the team sheet. Then decide Thorne isn't going to play every game, get some competition in for him. Also recognise the need for a CB to partner Keogh and actually have Keogh and someone being pushed by Bucko and Albentosa for their places increasing their performance levels. Why does Bucko being fit need to be sorted first and foremost, if all he will do is 'push' a new CB, surely first and foremost we should get in this CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Drastic changes to the back four needed. It was obvious before last season, obvious in Jan even more obvious now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 2 DMs... 4-2-3-1... Job done...Next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 We need to get injured players sorted first and foremost. The spine of Bucko Thorne and Martin.Not sure how to read this, I'll be surprised if you are saying get rid of these 3 but 2 of which have been out injured for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Nice to see a thread where everyone is not calling for all the players to be sold and a completely new squad purchased!We all know we had problems towards the end of last season but to pin them purely on the defence is wrong. The defence had very little protection and without Martin we failed to hold the ball up top, both leading to increased pressure on an already fragile defence.A little bit of tweaking and a pre season of rebuilding confidence should do us the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Why does Bucko being fit need to be sorted first and foremost, if all he will do is 'push' a new CB, surely first and foremost we should get in this CBMaybe not "first and foremost" for Bucko needing to be fit but certainly Martin and Thorne. I agree getting in a quality CB is our number 1 priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 What we need is -A new right back that can defend first and foremost.A centre back to replace Keogh.A fully fit Thorne, capable of playing 20 games on the spinAn experiencd CM, not to necessarily run games (especially if Hughes stays) but to cajole and encourage the team and keep a cool head when under the cosh.Get Ince backA capable understudy for MartinTo sell Shotton, Keogh, Bryson, Warnock & Sammon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Are you for real? ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not sure how to read this, I'll be surprised if you are saying get rid of these 3 but 2 of which have been out injured for a long time.Yeah I'm certainly not saying get rid. I read Martin might need surgery, if so I was implying lets get that done quick so we know how long he will be out for.When I say get it sorted, what I mean is lets decide given their injuries if we need to get in players or not to provide an alternative. As you say 2 of them have been out injured for a long time. I think the chances are Bucko and Thorne will get injured again this season. Obviously injuries are down to chance and hard to predict but Bucko is getting old now and Thorne is prone to frequent injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Drastic changes to the back four needed. It was obvious before last season, obvious in Jan even more obvious nowWho though? They need to be ball players who are better than what we've got. It's alright saying get a new back four, but there aren't many ball playing defenders out there.There's no point going out there and signing four out and out defenders either. Imagine four players in defence as comfortable on the ball as Forsyth, we'd probably have 15% less possession, we'd be under the cosh more and our team geared up for attack would suddenly be forced to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Nice to see a thread where everyone is not calling for all the players to be sold and a completely new squad purchased!We all know we had problems towards the end of last season but to pin them purely on the defence is wrong. The defence had very little protection and without Martin we failed to hold the ball up top, both leading to increased pressure on an already fragile defence.A little bit of tweaking and a pre season of rebuilding confidence should do us the world of good.I don't think having one fully fit CDM will mask the blatant cracks that were clear to see last season. Two seasons running now questions have been asked about Keogh, spells of form seem to blind a lot of people to all the mistakes he makes/is prone to making. Forsyth seems shot of confidence and cannot handle the pressure, which is a shame because of how good he was the end of 13/14 season. We cant risk waiting until January to make changes when we have a whole summer where we can shake up the team.Teams were switched on to us last season high pressure and our defence crumbled, the same will happen again unless changes are made IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah I'm certainly not saying get rid. I read Martin might need surgery, if so I was implying lets get that done quick so we know how long he will be out for.When I say get it sorted, what I mean is lets decide given their injuries if we need to get in players or not to provide an alternative. As you say 2 of them have been out injured for a long time. I think the chances are Bucko and Thorne will get injured again this season. Obviously injuries are down to chance and hard to predict but Bucko is getting old now and Thorne is prone to frequent injuries. Got you,I would go into the season planning for a season without Thorne, if he's there that's a bonus. 22 years old and never completed a full season of football, around 50 career games and 2 horrible injuries. Clearly a talent with bags of potential but a massive risk to gamble on him staying fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Who though? They need to be ball players who are better than what we've got. It's alright saying get a new back four, but there aren't many ball playing defenders out there.There's no point going out there and signing four out and out defenders either. Imagine four players in defence as comfortable on the ball as Forsyth, we'd probably have 15% less possession, we'd be under the cosh more and our team geared up for attack would suddenly be forced to defend.Id be going for Shackell, Wisdom and a young attacking left back. I think with a pre season and playing on his correct side Albentosa will come good (prepared for the backlash of that comment). Also have the possibility of Rawson pushing for a first team place if all the hype is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 But it was a very big collapse at the end of the season so something has to change ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 firstly, we need to break away from the myths.1. We don't need our centrebacks to be accomplished footballers. Their job is to protect the goal. Clear the ball or give it to someone who is accomplished. SIMPLE.2. We shouldn't judge our fullbacks primarily by their attacking prowess! Their priority is to protect the goal. If they can dribble, shoot and cross, it's a bonus.3. We do NOT need a defensive midfielder if we have a proper defence.4. We do NOT need a like for like backup for Chris Martin. We need an able alternative, and we do need to play in a way to maximise the abilities of whichever player we use.5. Ince and Bent did NOT ruin our style of play and make it ineffective. The style of play was changed, and confidence affected performances.6. Shackell was not a brilliant player for Derby and his return will not solve anything, likewise Wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 firstly, we need to break away from the myths.Those aren't myths, those are just opinions that differ from your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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