Rich3478 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 So we can't sell him back to Tottenham for more than the loan fee? God we always mess up on these sort of deals. I'm still seething over the Leon osman debacle! He was worth £5m by the time he left us, but we gave him back to everton for sweet fa! 3 amigos for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I can't. There was a fee with this deal, and a commitment to pay wages. Why would Spurs take him back when there's a legally binding deal? Similarly, why would Derby send back someone they're still paying for...? I don't want to say I told you so, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm still seething over the Leon osman debacle! He was worth £5m by the time he left us, but we gave him back to everton for sweet fa! 3 amigos for you! I'll see your Osman and raise you an El Hamdoui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I don't want to say I told you so, but... yeah it was a surprise that they did it. Spurs must be unhappy he ain't getting a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Spurs and Smith won't be happy with him not playing and it is difficult to imagine him playing regularly. Obviously Spurs wouldn't just cancel the deal to sit in their reserves. It would depend on another Championship club wanting to loan (and play) him. I would have thought a lower end championship team may want to take him on. Ahem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ahem... do you get a notification when you quote yourself? I've got to say, I'm enjoying the level of incisive action coming from the club. Sentiment and loyalty is nice, but wins nothing in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 do you get a notification when you quote yourself? I've got to say, I'm enjoying the level of incisive action coming from the club. Sentiment and loyalty is nice, but wins nothing in football. No. Just a warm glow. Wisdom replacing Smith has been the biggest difference to the team since McLaren came in. The whole defence has improved as a result. I thought (and said) Smith was rubbish from a pre-season game at Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 And what happens to the loan fee Who cares? It was never our concern as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 You can bet your bottom dollar we have lost out on the deal, we always fooking do. What,to spurs? When's that ever happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 You can bet your bottom dollar we have lost out on the deal, we always fooking do. What,to spurs? When's that ever happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 What,to spurs? When's that ever happened? How can we have 'lost out' (and I do know precisely what you are getting at)? If we were paying a huge loan fee AND all his wages, then even if we didn't save one penny of that, we haven't lost out on anything at all. We would have still had to pay a huge loan fee AND all his wages if he had stayed - the only difference now is that he can get a game in Tottenham's U-21 team instead of our U-21 team, because he sure as hell wasn't getting near our first team any time soon given Andre Wisdom's presence. Look on the positive side - it's saving on the food, showers and toilet paper at Moor Farm for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 How can we have 'lost out' (and I do know precisely what you are getting at)? If we were paying a huge loan fee AND all his wages, then even if we didn't save one penny of that, we haven't lost out on anything at all. We would have still had to pay a huge loan fee AND all his wages if he had stayed - the only difference now is that he can get a game in Tottenham's U-21 team instead of our U-21 team, because he sure as hell wasn't getting near our first team any time soon given Andre Wisdom's presence. Look on the positive side - it's saving on the food, showers and toilet paper at Moor Farm for a start. Two words Tom Huddlestone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Okay, now we only need Brayford in, sign better left back and get Wisdom and Keane here permanently and our defence is at last sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I would love to know how much we paid to loan him...... Rush must be ruing that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ahem... Well he won't be going anywhere until Jan as loan window closed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I would love to know how much we paid to loan him...... Rush must be ruing that decision If NC had brought Wisdom in instead of Smith, he might still be here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Opens up space for Bray. Time to move on from him. Still no real need for right back cover, left back cover is needed more, but Forsyth isn't as bad as people make out on here. There has been a marked improvement from him under SMc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 didnt deserve the nod ahead of freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 All sorts is happening with our defense. It is anyone's guess what will happen in January. I personally feel he will let one of Barker and O'brien leave along with Whitbread (injury prone). Possibly look at extending Keane's loan to the end of the season and purchase a RB (hopefully Brayford). You can disagree about Brayford rejoining but it makes more sense than anything. Very good RB, solid CB, can play RM and LB. Not getting a look in at Cardiff and If we signed him towards the end of the window Wisdom would only be with us for 3 more months. This January is going to be our biggest in a long time. We may not even sign anyone loan or as a player past the end of the season. Good approach to be honest. Unwilling to make a commitment as a new manager as the first season is always very volatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Two words Tom Huddlestone See the comments in parentheses. Also Rasiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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