WilkoRam

Well this a nice feel good period. Love it. Long may it continue! Starting to look up the table now. Not getting carried away but a lot more positive about the season! Up the 🐏🐏

Can we not all just enjoy the win and the performance? We can talk about how poor Northampton might have been but I for one have been calling out for entertainment and we got that but rather than enjoying it some still want to dismiss it. We won, it was good, time will tell if it’s a corner turned or not but enjoy it for what it is.

I agree completely with your last paragraph. Clowes is the owner and the sole reason we still have a club. If he feels that Warne should have more time then that’s his choice. I’m ashamed at some people’s personal attacks on him and on Warne. Completely uncalled for. The first part is just more guess work though and I only highlight it as you posted about material facts having long since gone and then proceed to make assumptions as to EFL restrictions possibly being in place. Who knows? Clowes has made his decision, I hope it works and the football and results improve. I have nothing against Warne I just haven’t enjoyed much of our football this season and that’s a shame. On that topic- my eldest daughter has got into football and there’s a battle at the moment between her supporting Derby or Tottenham (my wife’s team). Last season I think I was edging it, helped by taking her to some games (which is easier than getting tickets for Spurs). Also helped by Spurs playing awful football and the atmosphere being pretty toxic. This year I have no hope though, to sit bored watching Derby or watch some great entertainment with Spurs, which would you choose? I think as well that’s where we are, we’re Spurs of last year. We’ve gone for a “proven winner” but the football is poor and the results aren’t good enough for fans to swallow that style, it’s creating a divided fanbase. We’re not going to get a Big Ange through the door but what a difference a manager can make, someone who wants to entertain the fans, who’s happy for them to get excited and carried away. How I’d love that at Derby, instead I know my Daughter will be a Spurs fan now and I can’t blame her.

None of us know said restrictions but this seems like a highly unlikely one. I think, and again this is just an opinion as none of us know, but Clowes is one of the fans who thinks Warne needs more time, end of. He’s had a meeting, been shown a few highlight reels and been convinced things will get better. Nothing more to it, not some strange demand from the EFL that we’re not allowed to lay a manager off or a lack of money to do it, just the simple fact he believes (after having a meeting) that time is what is needed right now.

I don’t think it matters if they’re a rookie or experienced. What matters is we have a good philosophy throughout the club. A joined up way of playing throughout all of the age groups. A philosophy that allows the fans to see a plan and see something that resembles entertainment. Nobody expects us to breeze through each game and walk the league but we want something to get behind and something that shows there’s a long term plan for the identity of the team.

I’m not saying they’re mutually exclusive. People can criticise on here and then support during the game. I’m saying the cheering and singing isn’t unconditional. I’ve never booed at a game, even the most turgid of matches, but I’ve also not cheered and sung during them because what am I cheering? You’ve bored me for 90 mins and I’ve cheered you on for doing it? support is one thing but if you want me to cheer and you want me to sing your name then give me something to sing about, don’t just expect that it will always be there. Earn it, earn that praise, that support, that backing. Earn it by putting on a display that makes me want to come and watch week in week out.

I don’t agree with this idea that it’s now our turn to get behind them and cheer them on. I’m sure we all got into football because it’s an entertaining game. We pay money (be that for a ticket and cost of travel or travelling to far off places to be able to pay for RamsTV) which many of us struggle with at the minute, in order to go and be entertained and have that enjoyment. The players, manager, coaches, etc get paid well to provide that entertainment. It’s not on us to mindlessly cheer each week, it’s for them to give us something to cheer about. We’ll sing and cheer and bounce if we’re entertained but it comes from them in my view. That has been missing recently, the entertainment has gone! If the football is poor and boring then the atmosphere is likely to be negative and why shouldn’t it. Why should we accept paying money to be bored and frustrated for 90mins?

@G STAR RAM I’m not arguing btw just my opinion. You don’t think they’re good at this level. I think it’s harsh to judge based on 12 games under the manager they signed for and then a year under a manager who’s tactics I don’t think suit them. No way of proving either of us right……or is there 🤔😂

You’re judging the players after 12 league games when they had such an horrendous pre season and most of them didn’t sign until the season was almost underway? Personally I think they signed, and were signed, to play a certain way, one that kept the ball and passed it more. They’re not suited to Warne’s style of play. I don’t think you sign them if your tactic is get their faces and win the ball back then get it wide and stick in a cross. So they are good players at this level, in my view, but as with all players, only if you play to their strengths.

Can only beat what’s in front of you. We not only won but we also played some good stuff. Now the test is to show it wasn’t a one off and we don’t revert to type for the next game. Two more like that against Stevenage and Northampton and things will look better. Too early to say there’s no longer any concern (it was one game) but it was a step in the right direction. 👍

Sorry if posted already but I’ve only just seen this on the who scored website. Ouch!