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I think we will end up in the playoffs but regardless of what division we're in I know I'm not looking forward to another season of warneball.

I think we will end up in the playoffs but regardless of what division we're in I know I'm not looking forward to another season of warneball.

If we play 4-3-3 second.
If we play 5-3-2 third at best
We cannot play in such a negative fashion, especially at home. Get NML back on the wing where he’s happiest. 

For me it’s not about expectations or being patient as such. I wouldn’t really care if we were mid table if the football was good and I could see where we were going with it, but it’s the utterly awful style we are playing, the mind numbing intransigence of trying to force a system on players regardless of the fact that when we play four at the back we are much better and get better results. It’s maddening and he isn’t going to change; he clearly only wants to play his system and that’s that. This squad playing for a competent manager who plays actual football would be a massive contender for the autos or playoffs and most of us Rams fans know it, hence the expectations and frustrations on here.

We were never close to top two last season. We had a season to bed in after off the pitch turmoil, we weren't well equipped enough to go up last season on or off the pitch as a club in recovery.
What do you want? Us to fire Warne? With what money? Who would replace him? With what money? And what would we do about the squad Warne has assembled? We. Don't. Have. The. Money.
So stop the childish tantrums, it's two games in. We're a club under a financial business plan with the EFL, we're two games into the season with a new squad, and we're still finding our feet. 

1 game played
Could have easily won by 2 clear goals but for 2 absolute shockers
Still 3 weeks of window open to get some pace in
An opening day defeat should serve us better than a 5-0 win as it will temper expectations. 
We have had a fair bit of turnover during the summer and it's never going to gel straight away.
Stop your whining...

A decent performance ruined by 2 stupid mistakes. Onto the next one

So it's not done then is it.
If it was that close or "done' there's no chance Derby would agree to letting him play in a friendly.
Nor would Huddersfield play him in the friendly and risk a player that are getting rid of get injured.

I’m not unhappy, just don’t really see the point.
For what it’s worth, I always believe a manager needs a year at the club at least, something which Rosenior never had the privilege of (being in charge), Warne not even close.
Where we are now is Warne has been at the club for a month, during that time he’s been on holiday, we’ve had an international break with a few of the players away so he will still be in that figuring out what’s what and who can do what stage.
He’s clearly asking something completely different from the players and that won’t happen over night, I’m not sure we truly saw the best a Rosenior team could offer, nor have we seen what the best a Warne team can offer.
I think we’re in danger of looking like a very silly fanbase (online) and should have some more patience before ripping into him, at least let him have the January window to bring in some players he likes for his system. 

I think paul warne will get us promoted, just not this season. 

He’s not going to walk when on a 4 year contract and I don’t see clowes wanting to pay money sacking a manager when he ideally didn’t want to put the money in the buy the club. Like it or lump it warnes here for the foreseeable and tbh I think he’s the right man to get us out but needs another season at least. Unfortunately he’s been bought in now when we stupidly had a window where we bought in players to suit another managers style 

I just can't criticise the players or the performance when it's in a competition that in reality no one gives a toss about anyway. It's the equivalent of getting all worked up over a pre season friendly.

Important game is Friday. If we don’t win then, let’s panic a bit. But tonight?
The dads let the kids win.
No more.

Thanks and good luck in the future. He may go on to be a good manager but personally I think he is better suited to the tv studio giving analysis on games. 

Rosenior was interim for a reason. He was a short term option for Clowes because it was the obvious thing to do at that time. He has now brought his own man in and we must get behind him.

I trust the owner to make the right decision. 

At the beginning of the season the bookies looked at our signings and quite rightly said favourites for automatic promotion. Since then it's been pretty good at home apart from the Plymouth game, Away from home absolutely dreadful. LR has been given all the new signings he wanted but the performances don't reflect the quality in depth we have. 
It's a results game and the results have not been good enough. 
The worrying thing is he was coaching the side so that would have to change too.
Bring in someone who has man- management skills, we do have a very good side , on paper far to good for league 1, but the performances and results don't reflect the quality we have.

Paul Warne = Yes please 
I like Rosenior but we need a complete new management team. What we had with Rosenior, Walker and Buxton was just put together out of necisity. 
If we want any chance of being promoted this season, this decision had to be made and I wouldn't be surprised of LR has suggested this needed to happen.

Warne is a very good manager

For the owners there is a massive, massive priority to get out of the division this season. This is everything. I have rolled my eyes as plenty of posters have said maybe it would be better to stabilize this year and go up next. As if such a thing were possible. The consequences of not getting promoted would be terrible and that seems the only priority here. Bring someone in who has a track record of promotions out of League One. It's easier to stabilize and retain players in the Championship, with much higher revenues. The thinking will be that the style of football does not matter a jot so long as we go up.
David Clowes put a lot money into saving the club but we have all known he doesn't have a bottomless pit to fund us. This seems pretty pragmatic. Also ruthless and tough on Rosenior, but if Rosenior is staying, he must be on board with it at a fairly significant level. 

Sorry mate. Whilst I honestly don't know if Paul Warne will be a success or not.
He's won promotion from this league 3 times and currently has Rotherham sat 8th in the Championship.
To say it's a sideways step from Rosenior is madness.

But that's not true. The point is we only create poor chances. "Expected goals" is a very dubious, subjective statistic, but even if we were to assume is has a degree of accuracy, when you divide our expected goals by our number of goal attempts you see why we do not score. If most chances have only a 5-10% probability of finding the net, it's the quality of the chance that's at issue, and not the quality of our finishing. We are not set up to create good chances. That's why we've only scored in 16 of the last 36 away league games. And then only 19 goals in total in all of those matches. Liam has to wake up and smell the coffee. Those are extraordinary stats, and not in a good way. There is something systematically wrong with how he wants us to play.

My view has always been that players under a new manager don't suddenly become bad....it's the tactics and coaching of the management team that's the problem.
 

If the rumours of clowes wanting to give Liam a permanent contract are true, I do wonder if hes having a rethink after last night's performance. 

How long do you give Liam then? 2/3/4 years? 
 
And I’m sorry, but I don’t want mediocrity for the next 2/3/4 years. 
 
Clowes will not want that either. What do you think he’s thinking now when he’s sat watching the game? “Oh at least we’ve got a club”. No, he will be thinking, this club needs to be back in the Championship asap. No time for being sentimental in business and especially not in football. 
 
But you keep counting your blessings and enjoy winning 3 out of the next 36 away games.